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Tarafından gönderildi Amok, 01.04.2018 - 06:11
Inspired by the moderators AUA post

It's been a while since we've done something like this. So feel free to speak your mind, this is your chance to ask us about all sorts of stuff!
Off-topic, spam and plain silly comments will be removed and offenders prosecuted (just kidding).
03.04.2018 - 02:34
Tarafından yazıldı clovis1122, 03.04.2018 at 01:57

Tarafından yazıldı j-e-s-u-s, 02.04.2018 at 14:14

Scenario mod? when?
by this i mean someone who actualy will take care over trolls and scenario players problems


wowe, a scenario admin player is not enough? Or you guys specifically wants a MapMaker? Either case, such distinctions (eu/scenario mod) shouldn't exist IMO.

but the distinctions exist, and we want a pure (or atleast a major) scenario player, mapmaker can work aswell, just need a player that will take care of trolls and such, even if they troll the part he doesnt really care for
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03.04.2018 - 06:16
Tarafından yazıldı clovis1122, 03.04.2018 at 01:57

wowe, a scenario admin player is not enough? Or you guys specifically wants a MapMaker? Either case, such distinctions (eu/scenario mod) shouldn't exist IMO.

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03.04.2018 - 06:40
Tarafından yazıldı Zephyrusu, 03.04.2018 at 06:16

Tarafından yazıldı clovis1122, 03.04.2018 at 01:57

wowe, a scenario admin player is not enough? Or you guys specifically wants a MapMaker? Either case, such distinctions (eu/scenario mod) shouldn't exist IMO.




Well nowadays I don't have much time, so I opt for short games. If you scroll a bit further:

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03.04.2018 - 08:19
Tarafından yazıldı Xanxth, 01.04.2018 at 20:51

I would like to know how to contact Ivan or Amok if its needed.... I sent y'all lots of emails and PM's(you did reply to some of my PM's regarding development).
@clovis Are you going to create a changelog for your changes? o.O

You dont that's the point they are to busy to hold private conversations with every single person who has an idea or complaint.
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03.04.2018 - 10:09
Tarafından yazıldı Kingjim, 03.04.2018 at 10:04

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 03.04.2018 at 08:19

Tarafından yazıldı Xanxth, 01.04.2018 at 20:51

I would like to know how to contact Ivan or Amok if its needed.... I sent y'all lots of emails and PM's(you did reply to some of my PM's regarding development).
@clovis Are you going to create a changelog for your changes? o.O

You dont that's the point they are to busy to hold private conversations with every single person who has an idea or complaint.

This thread is for asking admins..not asking helly.. you've been answering these question with your own thoughts..you look unhappy , hellykin

It's not like you did not make an alt to spacificaly harrass me or anything, yah I'm unhappy you need to leave me alone.

If someone has an easy question to answer then why should I not answer it? Any rational human would relise if they are pming amok and Ivan all the time, so are hundreds of other people messages are bound to get lost in the traffic.
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03.04.2018 - 10:26
Tarafından yazıldı Kingjim, 03.04.2018 at 10:15

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 03.04.2018 at 10:09

Tarafından yazıldı Kingjim, 03.04.2018 at 10:04

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 03.04.2018 at 08:19

Tarafından yazıldı Xanxth, 01.04.2018 at 20:51

I would like to know how to contact Ivan or Amok if its needed.... I sent y'all lots of emails and PM's(you did reply to some of my PM's regarding development).
@clovis Are you going to create a changelog for your changes? o.O

You dont that's the point they are to busy to hold private conversations with every single person who has an idea or complaint.

This thread is for asking admins..not asking helly.. you've been answering these question with your own thoughts..you look unhappy , hellykin

It's not like you did not make an alt to spacificaly harrass me or anything, yah I'm unhappy you need to leave me alone.

If someone has an easy question to answer then why should I not answer it? Any rational human would relise if they are pming amok and Ivan all the time, so are hundreds of other people messages are bound to get lost in the traffic.

you do realise when u answer those questions its like youre complaining on why ivan & amok doesnt reply all of these pms , right ? what am i harassing ? dude get your head straight.. everything i say is harassing.. lmao

(100th) POSTS !!!

No you see that's what we call an opinion, one you formed out of spite for me, and one you made in an attempt to illegitimise what I said to a third party someone you have no ties to.
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03.04.2018 - 13:23
Are any of you interested in implementing this?

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=36144&board_page=3

The competitive meta has grown stale and many players are seeking changes. 26 upvotes and the discussion was held publically this time.
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03.04.2018 - 15:07
I made a scenario recently that requires 20 players called "World in 1450" The problem is whenever i host my scenario the max players is 4 and i cant change it. it has been like this for a couple days if anyone could help it is much appreciated.
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03.04.2018 - 15:24
Tarafından yazıldı SoggyHerman, 03.04.2018 at 15:07

I made a scenario recently that requires 20 players called "World in 1450" The problem is whenever i host my scenario the max players is 4 and i cant change it. it has been like this for a couple days if anyone could help it is much appreciated.

I explained to you how to fix it, delete all scenario sides and readd them and it will fix.
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03.04.2018 - 16:26
Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 03.04.2018 at 15:24

Tarafından yazıldı SoggyHerman, 03.04.2018 at 15:07

I made a scenario recently that requires 20 players called "World in 1450" The problem is whenever i host my scenario the max players is 4 and i cant change it. it has been like this for a couple days if anyone could help it is much appreciated.

I explained to you how to fix it, delete all scenario sides and readd them and it will fix.

Thank you
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04.04.2018 - 00:56
 Ivan (Yönetici)
Tarafından yazıldı Permamuted, 03.04.2018 at 13:23

Are any of you interested in implementing this?

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=36144&board_page=3

The competitive meta has grown stale and many players are seeking changes. 26 upvotes and the discussion was held publically this time.

Ugh, again? I always get shit for tweaking strategies, people are never happy with any changes
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04.04.2018 - 00:56
Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 04.04.2018 at 00:56

Tarafından yazıldı Permamuted, 03.04.2018 at 13:23

Are any of you interested in implementing this?

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=36144&board_page=3

The competitive meta has grown stale and many players are seeking changes. 26 upvotes and the discussion was held publically this time.

Ugh, again? I always get shit for tweaking strategies, people are never happy with any changes

fuck em bro u can never make people happy
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04.04.2018 - 07:42
Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 04.04.2018 at 00:56

Tarafından yazıldı Permamuted, 03.04.2018 at 13:23

Are any of you interested in implementing this?

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=36144&board_page=3

The competitive meta has grown stale and many players are seeking changes. 26 upvotes and the discussion was held publically this time.

Ugh, again? I always get shit for tweaking strategies, people are never happy with any changes


Haha you and me both. I'm sure you know better than anyone that if you try to make everyone happy you'll make nobody happy. It's the will of the people Ivan!
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04.04.2018 - 07:50
Tarafından yazıldı Mr Tyler, 04.04.2018 at 00:56

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 04.04.2018 at 00:56

Tarafından yazıldı Permamuted, 03.04.2018 at 13:23

Are any of you interested in implementing this?

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=36144&board_page=3

The competitive meta has grown stale and many players are seeking changes. 26 upvotes and the discussion was held publically this time.

Ugh, again? I always get shit for tweaking strategies, people are never happy with any changes

fuck em bro u can never make people happy


We'd rather make most of the people happy tho

One message that I like a lot, from Ivan:

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 27.01.2015 at 11:46

Also, you have a ridiculous notion that there's a "perfect game" that atWar can be turned into. If there's one thing we've learned in the years we've spent on atWar is that it's impossible to please everybody. For every change you roll out, 2 people will be cheering and one will be whining - and that's a good case scenario! Obviously, the game can be improved, but while we come closer to your version of a "perfect game", a legion of other players will be posting very similar messages about how the game used to be so much better and had such potential, and how they got disregarded and left behind.
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04.04.2018 - 08:10
Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 04.04.2018 at 00:56

Tarafından yazıldı Permamuted, 03.04.2018 at 13:23

Are any of you interested in implementing this?

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=36144&board_page=3

The competitive meta has grown stale and many players are seeking changes. 26 upvotes and the discussion was held publically this time.

Ugh, again? I always get shit for tweaking strategies, people are never happy with any changes

Maybe before you change them ask the whole AW community and not just the "elites" if they want something to be changed or not.
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04.04.2018 - 09:05
"Most people" or "the whole atwar community" is a vague, immeasurable and largely silent group which players tend to use to as a pretext for their own desires. While i was r0-8 i just played away at my worldgames spamming blitz and mos. What did a few strat changes matter to me? What could i possibly contribute to such a discussion. In that thread are 26 upvotes from most of the active high ranks in the community. Who better to decide on how strategies should be balanced than the communities most experienced high ranks?

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=26707

Of course you can always attempt to go down the populist route and change the game according to threads like this. LB unarguably the most powerful strat in the game at the moment was voted as the 2nd weakest by 20% of the voters. You always can try listening to them and see which changes bring about the larger backlash. I play other strategy games and i haven't encountered a single 1 where the meta is determined by the uninformed desires of the masses. Please point me in the direction of a game that does that.

Strat changes have always been implemented after discussion by the games top players. People have always complained afterwards. Why the fear now? Ivan has said it himself. The game could remain the same the next 5 years and people would complain. Nobody is attempting to achieve perfection. We all know that doesnt exist. 2013 saw the pd/sm/imp meta. 2015 saw the gw/pd/gc/imp meta. 2016 - present sees the gw/lb/ds meta. Time to move on again so all the high ranks dont get bored. We are only trying to advance the meta. The vast majority of players will continue playing their scenarios and world games uncaring. And the jugers2s and players of that ilk will return to the game from long spells of inactivity to complain because they actually have to relearn some of the game.

Your call guys. I won't derail this thread any further.
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04.04.2018 - 09:13
 Acquiesce (Mod)
Would the admins kindly consider looking into these 2 changes I proposed some years back?

https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=26620
https://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=12661&topicsearch=&page=1

The first is to allow rejoining in clan wars while the game is on hold. This one is really really long overdue.

The second is a game option to change the rate at which reinforcement turns arrive. If it's easy to code it would be a nice optional way to spice up standard play.

Thanks!
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04.04.2018 - 09:57
Tarafından yazıldı Permamuted, 04.04.2018 at 09:05



I partly agree with you but what does a top player mean?Its the 3v3 player?What about scenario players?I like more the aproach to ask every clan that is active in community affairs that lets ask only the top players.
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04.04.2018 - 10:22
Tarafından yazıldı JUGERS2, 04.04.2018 at 09:57

Tarafından yazıldı Permamuted, 04.04.2018 at 09:05



I partly agree with you but what does a top player mean?Its the 3v3 player?What about scenario players?I like more the aproach to ask every clan that is active in community affairs that lets ask only the top players.

You talking about skillfull scenarios or scenarios like ww1?
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04.04.2018 - 11:46
Is Amok dead or in coma
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04.04.2018 - 11:50
Tarafından yazıldı JUGERS2, 04.04.2018 at 09:57

Tarafından yazıldı Permamuted, 04.04.2018 at 09:05



What about scenario players?


We can't really force everybody to participate in the discussion, if they don't want. I'm fine with the fact that it was public discussion and everybody had a say in the progress.

Personally I'm against the trend of changing the strategies whenever the game becomes boring or some recently discovered country + strategy combo arise. Ivan doesn't wants to do it. I remember Ivan once said that Amok's view was "let's never touch them again". I guess we're all on the same page with the topic.

I value public discussion a lot though, and I think it's fine to risk changing the strategies one more time if there's some sort of consensus (or a very big part of agreements) among the community. For LB, this appears to be the case. Everything else in the thread is too controversial IMO.
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04.04.2018 - 20:20
How did you guys come up with ELO currency?
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04.04.2018 - 23:49
Tarafından yazıldı No Lackin, 04.04.2018 at 20:20

How did you guys come up with ELO currency?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

It is already an established method for skill placement in chess, i am sure they were influenced by this. I do wonder the story exactly though for atwar.
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05.04.2018 - 04:25
@clovis
are you from dominican republic for real or just a meme?
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>playing atwar:

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed
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05.04.2018 - 05:02
 Sascha (Mod)
Tarafından yazıldı Google, 04.04.2018 at 23:49

Tarafından yazıldı No Lackin, 04.04.2018 at 20:20

How did you guys come up with ELO currency?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

It is already an established method for skill placement in chess, i am sure they were influenced by this. I do wonder the story exactly though for atwar.

not only in chess its getting used by some bigger titles in the gaming scene already
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05.04.2018 - 06:03
What are your favorite songs?
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05.04.2018 - 06:31
Tarafından yazıldı j-e-s-u-s, 05.04.2018 at 04:25

@clovis
are you from dominican republic for real or just a meme?


I'm really from there!

Tarafından yazıldı Checkmate., 05.04.2018 at 06:03

What are your favorite songs?


Although I'm not too much into music, my family says that I like this song a lot - in fact, it was the first song I ever sing in a Karaoke!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ECheRkNyGI

English songs hmmm... Neither in particular
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05.04.2018 - 09:08
 Ivan (Yönetici)
Tarafından yazıldı Checkmate., 05.04.2018 at 06:03

What are your favorite songs?

I wouldn't be able to pick the absolute favorite ones, but here are some examples of what I like:

Nightwish - Ghost Love Score
Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down Again
Garbage - Temptation Waits
Scorpions - Blackout
Anathema - Distant Satellites
Dredg - Hung Over On A Tuesday
Evergrey - My Allied Ocean
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05.04.2018 - 09:44
Tarafından yazıldı Amok, 01.04.2018 at 06:20

Our current plan is to finalise map and scenario editors, to make the HTML5 version finally feature-complete. Then we will definitely think about getting it to Steam.

the website will stay?
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>playing atwar:

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed
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05.04.2018 - 10:46
 Acquiesce (Mod)
Tarafından yazıldı Google, 04.04.2018 at 23:49

I do wonder the story exactly though for atwar.


Amok may have decided on using it as a metric independently but as for the first player to talk about it, I remember Cow (superiorcaocow) suggesting it be implemented in early 2012.
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