Attention Andartes

Tarafından yazıldı Rock Lee, 18.01.2018 at 20:32

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 18.01.2018 at 20:12

Tarafından yazıldı Rock Lee, 18.01.2018 at 19:44

Oh i just readed it and saw commando said more than that. Sorry its 3AM here

Now delete your post, I didn't even read all posts that CE made here, just first one, and I like it.

Also Pavle its not easy to say because you are my friend but you are being too easily convinced with your anti american and pro russian obsession. Relieve your mind bro

I am actually pro European and you should know it by now, you really don't know me and call me friend.

Tarafından yazıldı Steve Aoki, 18.01.2018 at 19:49

You got into the match as a substitute in 85th minute and you have balls of saying you won it by yourself, and also brag about running faster than your teammate on the right wing.
*clap clap*

We could have won without the russian. They should have just stayed out of it and kept purging eachother.

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 18.01.2018 at 21:00

I am actually pro European and you should know it by now, you really don't know me and call me friend.

I knew it homie I am still talking from experience

Not that it does not rely of point of view. Its clear to me that for some people I sound alot worse stubborn

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:06

We could..

Just imagine those 1 mil soldiers on east were actually on beaches protecting against invasion and then you could tell yourself anything you want and enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

Tarafından yazıldı Steve Aoki, 18.01.2018 at 21:28

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:06

We could..

Just imagine those 1 mil soldiers on west were actually on beaches protecting against invasion and then you could tell yourself anything you want and enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

Pfft we were busy dealing with the entire pacific front. Japan would have capitulated and it was just a matter of nuking every german city from that point on.

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:29

Tarafından yazıldı Steve Aoki, 18.01.2018 at 21:28

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:06

We could..

Just imagine those 1 mil soldiers on west were actually on beaches protecting against invasion and then you could tell yourself anything you want and enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

Pfft we were busy dealing with the entire pacific front. Japan would have capitulated and it was just a matter of nuking every german city from that point on.

Dude, i'm done with this conv but i think you understand that nothing that far on east capitulates. Ever. xD
well not really never but you got the point

Tarafından yazıldı Steve Aoki, 18.01.2018 at 21:39

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:29

Tarafından yazıldı Steve Aoki, 18.01.2018 at 21:28

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:06

We could..

Just imagine those 1 mil soldiers on west were actually on beaches protecting against invasion and then you could tell yourself anything you want and enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

Pfft we were busy dealing with the entire pacific front. Japan would have capitulated and it was just a matter of nuking every german city from that point on.

Dude, i'm done with this conv but i think you understand that nothing that far on east capitulates. Ever. xD
well not really never but you got the point

You really going to argue that the US can't just nuke the german until they give up or all die.

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:41

Tarafından yazıldı Steve Aoki, 18.01.2018 at 21:39

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:29

Tarafından yazıldı Steve Aoki, 18.01.2018 at 21:28

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:06

We could..

Just imagine those 1 mil soldiers on west were actually on beaches protecting against invasion and then you could tell yourself anything you want and enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

Pfft we were busy dealing with the entire pacific front. Japan would have capitulated and it was just a matter of nuking every german city from that point on.

Dude, i'm done with this conv but i think you understand that nothing that far on east capitulates. Ever. xD
well not really never but you got the point

You really going to argue that the US can't just nuke the german until they give up or all die.

You really wanna say that Germany wasnt close to developing nuclear bomb themself?

Dont take on my word but i think they were working on a bomb for a longer time than usa and i think they were close to finishing it.
But to completely argue the point, bombs were dropped 1945.
You got into war '41.
You can say w/e you want but germany had one of the most, if not the top advanced military technology at the time. That war wouldnt end in '45. if there wasnt for russian. And who knows how it would end.

Tarafından yazıldı Steve Aoki, 18.01.2018 at 21:54

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:41

Tarafından yazıldı Steve Aoki, 18.01.2018 at 21:39

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:29

Tarafından yazıldı Steve Aoki, 18.01.2018 at 21:28

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:06

We could..

Just imagine those 1 mil soldiers on west were actually on beaches protecting against invasion and then you could tell yourself anything you want and enjoy your Pyrrhic victory.

Pfft we were busy dealing with the entire pacific front. Japan would have capitulated and it was just a matter of nuking every german city from that point on.

Dude, i'm done with this conv but i think you understand that nothing that far on east capitulates. Ever. xD
well not really never but you got the point

You really going to argue that the US can't just nuke the german until they give up or all die.

You really wanna say that Germany wasnt close to developing nuclear bomb themself?

Dont take on my word but i think they were working on a bomb for a longer time than usa and i think they were close to finishing it.
But to completely argue the point, bombs were dropped 1945.
You got into war '41.
You can say w/e you want but germany had one of the most, if not the top advanced military technology at the time. That war wouldnt end in '45. if there wasnt for russian. And who knows how it would end.

Germany exiled all their best scientists. The USA would have nuked all their nuclear facilities simply because we had it first.

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 18.01.2018 at 21:57

Germany exiled all their best scientists. The USA would have nuked all their nuclear facilities simply because we had it first.

And what i'm trying to tell you is that there is a chance you getting that technology first wouldnt matter at all. Because you needed 4 years of war to get there.

Tarafından yazıldı AlBoZzZ, 18.01.2018 at 19:05

You gheg or tosk? Do you support Great Albania?

This derailed into pure arrogance and ignorance


No the US didn't win WW2 by themselves


Everything US did in BOTH world wars was just supplyng foreign men dieing in their wars and then joining at the end to collect profits

On behalf of the Americans, I apologize for the ugly and ignorant light our dear friend wd is painting our nation. You see he's from california, and that's not really an american but rather a brainwashed microhippy with bouts of depression and anger. Ignore it for now because trump will steal it's food stamps and it will die. Russia won world war 2 By itself, The United states joined on Churchills request because they did not want europe falling under the Russian sphere, and taking control away from the Rothschild banking cartel, also known as federal banks.

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 15:13

On behalf of the Americans, I apologize for the ugly and ignorant light our dear friend wd is painting our nation. You see he's from california, and that's not really an american but rather a brainwashed microhippy with bouts of depression and anger. Ignore it for now because trump will steal it's food stamps and it will die. Russia won world war 2 By itself, The United states joined on Churchills request because they did not want europe falling under the Russian sphere, and taking control away from the Rothschild banking cartel, also known as federal banks.

Apology accepted, that guy is real pain in the rear

About WW2, first there wasn't Russia (i am aware West was used to call it such, Hitler as well pointed that despite his planners used official name Soviet Union), i still believe we shouldn't use term Russia because it symbolize old russian way like religion, ethnicity, tradition and way of life, which was completely different than the one in the USSR (atheism, multiethnicity, internationalism, ideology).

Second, USSR didn't win alone, there were allies, just USSR destroyed most German troops (80%), and America did play a crucial role by fighting Italians & Germans in Africa, South Europe and West Europe (via largest landing in human history), and also by 1v1 Japan in Pacific. Also Churchill was right that if US didn't join that europe would fall under 'soviet' sphere, since Red Army would have to reach Paris (like in 1815 to defeat Napoleon). That's maybe the only correct thing that comes from deluded guy as Churchill (known for political incompetence and military failures like Gallipoli)

Third, i see you like one percenters and banks, so what's your opinion about International Bank for Settlements? I recently read about it and thought it is very powerful, yet never heard in conspiracy theories, forums or media.

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 15:13

On behalf of the Americans, I apologize for the ugly and ignorant light our dear friend wd is painting our nation. You see he's from california, and that's not really an american but rather a brainwashed microhippy with bouts of depression and anger. Ignore it for now because trump will steal it's food stamps and it will die. Russia won world war 2 By itself, The United states joined on Churchills request because they did not want europe falling under the Russian sphere, and taking control away from the Rothschild banking cartel, also known as federal banks.

So your saying the cold war was about saving property of a german family and the threath of communist anti western nuclear superpower holding Europe and spreading further is fictional and unreal?

No disrespect Im just not sure what drives you

Tarafından yazıldı Rock Lee, 19.01.2018 at 15:32

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 15:13

On behalf of the Americans, I apologize for the ugly and ignorant light our dear friend wd is painting our nation. You see he's from california, and that's not really an american but rather a brainwashed microhippy with bouts of depression and anger. Ignore it for now because trump will steal it's food stamps and it will die. Russia won world war 2 By itself, The United states joined on Churchills request because they did not want europe falling under the Russian sphere, and taking control away from the Rothschild banking cartel, also known as federal banks.

So your saying the cold war was about saving property of a german family and the threath of communist anti western nuclear superpower holding Europe and spreading further is fictional and unreal?

No disrespect Im just not sure what drives you

You know I just wrote a fucking essay and relised you would not believe me anyways. Sufficed to say they are not really germans, they come from the caucusus mountains, originally apart of the khazarian tribes and they used there wealth to vest control of most parts of the free world without actually putting people in chains. They own the media, and they own education in the United states most importantly, and they use those two tools to rewrite history and program young people in public education. They are purposely dumbing the public down, because a lazy and stupid society will not rebel, and will remain apart of there economic machine. The ultimate goal is to take over the planet, suppress free thought, destroy ambition of lesser people, and finally genocide of undesirable people. Pm me if you really want to know more, these subjects are hot beds for forum trolling.

To more accuratly answer your question the war was about keeping europe under there influence, the United kingdom is the brain of there empire and the United states is its sword, and it used our country to keep its influence over Europe and away from an uncontrolled USSR.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 19.01.2018 at 15:31

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 15:13

On behalf of the Americans, I apologize for the ugly and ignorant light our dear friend wd is painting our nation. You see he's from california, and that's not really an american but rather a brainwashed microhippy with bouts of depression and anger. Ignore it for now because trump will steal it's food stamps and it will die. Russia won world war 2 By itself, The United states joined on Churchills request because they did not want europe falling under the Russian sphere, and taking control away from the Rothschild banking cartel, also known as federal banks.

Apology accepted, that guy is real pain in the rear

About WW2, first there wasn't Russia (i am aware West was used to call it such, Hitler as well pointed that despite his planners used official name Soviet Union), i still believe we shouldn't use term Russia because it symbolize old russian way like religion, ethnicity, tradition and way of life, which was completely different than the one in the USSR (atheism, multiethnicity, internationalism, ideology).

Second, USSR didn't win alone, there were allies, just USSR destroyed most German troops (80%), and America did play a crucial role by fighting Italians & Germans in Africa, South Europe and West Europe (via largest landing in human history), and also by 1v1 Japan in Pacific. Also Churchill was right that if US didn't join that europe would fall under 'soviet' sphere, since Red Army would have to reach Paris (like in 1815 to defeat Napoleon). That's maybe the only correct thing that comes from deluded guy as Churchill (known for political incompetence and military failures like Gallipoli)

Third, i see you like one percenters and banks, so what's your opinion about International Bank for Settlements? I recently read about it and thought it is very powerful, yet never heard in conspiracy theories, forums or media.

I'd like to answer your third point but I'm not understanding the question the way you worded it. Are you asking what I think about international banks being involved in settlements, which kind of settlements?

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 15:53

Tarafından yazıldı Rock Lee, 19.01.2018 at 15:32

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 15:13

On behalf of the Americans, I apologize for the ugly and ignorant light our dear friend wd is painting our nation. You see he's from california, and that's not really an american but rather a brainwashed microhippy with bouts of depression and anger. Ignore it for now because trump will steal it's food stamps and it will die. Russia won world war 2 By itself, The United states joined on Churchills request because they did not want europe falling under the Russian sphere, and taking control away from the Rothschild banking cartel, also known as federal banks.

So your saying the cold war was about saving property of a german family and the threath of communist anti western nuclear superpower holding Europe and spreading further is fictional and unreal?

No disrespect Im just not sure what drives you

You know I just wrote a fucking essay and relised you would not believe me anyways. Sufficed to say they are not really germans, they come from the caucusus mountains, originally apart of the khazarian tribes and they used there wealth to vest control of most parts of the free world without actually putting people in chains. They own the media, and they own education in the United states most importantly, and they use those two tools to rewrite history and program young people in public education. They are purposely dumbing the public down, because a lazy and stupid society will not rebel, and will remain apart of there economic machine. The ultimate goal is to take over the planet, suppress free thought, destroy ambition of lesser people, and finally genocide of undesirable people. Pm me if you really want to know more, these subjects are hot beds for forum trolling.

Ok I will read whatever you send me

Tarafından yazıldı Rock Lee, 19.01.2018 at 15:58

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 15:53

Tarafından yazıldı Rock Lee, 19.01.2018 at 15:32

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 15:13

On behalf of the Americans, I apologize for the ugly and ignorant light our dear friend wd is painting our nation. You see he's from california, and that's not really an american but rather a brainwashed microhippy with bouts of depression and anger. Ignore it for now because trump will steal it's food stamps and it will die. Russia won world war 2 By itself, The United states joined on Churchills request because they did not want europe falling under the Russian sphere, and taking control away from the Rothschild banking cartel, also known as federal banks.

So your saying the cold war was about saving property of a german family and the threath of communist anti western nuclear superpower holding Europe and spreading further is fictional and unreal?

No disrespect Im just not sure what drives you

You know I just wrote a fucking essay and relised you would not believe me anyways. Sufficed to say they are not really germans, they come from the caucusus mountains, originally apart of the khazarian tribes and they used there wealth to vest control of most parts of the free world without actually putting people in chains. They own the media, and they own education in the United states most importantly, and they use those two tools to rewrite history and program young people in public education. They are purposely dumbing the public down, because a lazy and stupid society will not rebel, and will remain apart of there economic machine. The ultimate goal is to take over the planet, suppress free thought, destroy ambition of lesser people, and finally genocide of undesirable people. Pm me if you really want to know more, these subjects are hot beds for forum trolling.

Ok I will read whatever you send me

I added a little more to my last post relizing I did not actually answer your question xD

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 19.01.2018 at 12:50

Tarafından yazıldı AlBoZzZ, 18.01.2018 at 19:05

You gheg or tosk? Do you support Great Albania?

my origin is from south albania but i was borned and raised in Elbasan which is in middle. And yes i support to get back any land that was taken from us historicaly.

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 15:53

To more accuratly answer your question the war was about keeping europe under there influence, the United kingdom is the brain of there empire and the United states is its sword, and it used our country to keep its influence over Europe and away from an uncontrolled USSR.

That's some wild assumption. trying to fathom dangers and judge priorities. the soviet union at the time was real danger to America and the rest of the world as proven in previous year and at this very war when they didnt mind to sacrefice people just like that. I don't really see how they could control America for long time when there are elections all the time and at period media was way more local than Global. also you need to remember the Nazis did lot of thing with the Jew conspiracy theory as execuse. they litterly pushed out of society every Jew they could. Eventually America desicion to fight seemed very right for the security of their country.

Plus, we know according to DNA mapping that the Jewish communities around the world share unique DNA attributes. so the causcase theory is wrong. plus I visited there and we have immigrants from the causcauses in Israel. people there look nothing like Ashkenazi Jews at all.

Plus when they searched for Non-Jewish communities with Jewish DNA the biggest communities were found in South Spain. (Historiclly Morrocoo contained hundreds of thousands of Jews but they were genocided with the rise of Islam). It's more likely that the majority of the Jews arrived Europe from Italy and Spain (remember that after the two rebellions Rome took lot of Jews hostages to Europe. plus there already were big Jewish community mainly in Tunisia Italy and Greece. but they did not survive) and not the opposite way.

About the possibility of random mongols turks and slavs from the caucausces arriving easten europe and pretending to be Jewish i will also add that at the time there already were Jewish communities in eastern Europe that documented everything. they would not just accept them and let them breed with them unless they were willing to change their way of life drasticlly. and being Jewish in the dark ages was not a faith that someone would want.

Tarafından yazıldı Rock Lee, 19.01.2018 at 16:15

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 15:53

To more accuratly answer your question the war was about keeping europe under there influence, the United kingdom is the brain of there empire and the United states is its sword, and it used our country to keep its influence over Europe and away from an uncontrolled USSR.

That's some wild assumption. trying to fathom dangers and judge priorities. the soviet union at the time was real danger to America and the rest of the world as proven in previous year and at this very war when they didnt mind to sacrefice people just like that. I don't really see how they could control America for long time when there are elections all the time and at period media was way more local than Global. also you need to remember the Nazis did lot of thing with the Jew conspiracy theory as execuse. they litterly pushed out of society every Jew they could. Eventually America desicion to fight seemed very right for the security of their country.

Plus, we know according to DNA mapping that the Jewish communities around the world share unique DNA attributes. so the causcase theory is wrong. plus I visited there and we have immigrants from the causcauses in Israel. people there look nothing like Ashkenazi Jews at all.

Plus when they searched for Non-Jewish communities with Jewish DNA the biggest communities were found in South Spain. (Historiclly Morrocoo contained hundreds of thousands of Jews but they were genocided with the rise of Islam). It's more likely that the majority of the Jews arrived Europe from Italy and Spain (remember that after the two rebellions Rome took lot of Jews hostages to Europe. plus there already were big Jewish community mainly in Tunisia Italy and Greece. but they did not survive) and not the opposite way.

Your acting like I attacked Judaism, I was not, I don't believe these people had a religion, they just assumed whatever identity they needed to prosper in the current political climate. The political elite converted to Judaism to remain independent from the patriarchy in constantinople, and that of the Abbasid Caliphate.

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 16:29

Your acting like I attacked Judaism, I was not, I don't believe these people had a religion, they just assumed whatever identity they needed to prosper in the current political climate. The political elite converted to Judaism to remain independent from the patriarchy in constantinople, and that of the Abbasid Caliphate.

Oh I thought you were talking about that theory that Ashkenazi Jews are turkic and mongolic. Anyways about your theory you gotta to remember the diffrence between the renesance and the medivial times. at the medivial times Jews lived seperately and mostely in far Villages away from the chrisitian communities. I don't think pretending to be Jewish would help them in any way to fit into chrisitian society when they could just convert to be christian. Plus they needed to spend some time living in the Jewish villages to learn and be accepted as Jews. which means away from the Christian society and their buisness. it does'nt seem likely again.

Plus They would'nt just let wave of atheiests from causcauses enter their country just like that.

Tarafından yazıldı Rock Lee, 19.01.2018 at 16:34

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 16:29

Your acting like I attacked Judaism, I was not, I don't believe these people had a religion, they just assumed whatever identity they needed to prosper in the current political climate. The political elite converted to Judaism to remain independent from the patriarchy in constantinople, and that of the Abbasid Caliphate.

Oh I thought you were talking about that theory that Ashkenazi Jews are turkic and mongolic. Anyways about your theory you gotta to remember the diffrence between the renesance and the medivial times. at the medivial times Jews lived seperately and mostely in far Villages away from the chrisitian communities. I don't think pretending to be Jewish would help them in any way to fit into chrisitian society when they could just convert to be christian. Plus they needed to spend some time living in the Jewish villages to learn and be accepted as Jews. which means away from the Christian society and their buisness. it does'nt seem likely again.

Plus They would'nt just let wave of atheiests from causcauses enter their country just like that.

they did not want to pay taxes to the patriarchy or the caliphate, since they bordered both, and controlled silk road commerce. Thay had there own empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.01.2018 at 16:41

they did not want to pay taxes to the patriarchy or the caliphate, since they bordered both, and controlled silk road commerce. Thay had there own empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

Ok I will read more about it. But frankly are you claiming that one family that avoided paying religious tax founded 1500 years destiny that was approved by european jews that breeded with them secretley with no documentery? They kept their secret identity and lived out from socity in seperated villages as Jews for what purpose exactly? And after their soil got conquered and they lost their enpire why did they keep their jewish cover despite its dangers? That is not very likely.

Http://khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html. Seems like its enough evidence but I will start studying deeply about the subject

This thread LOL

If the Russians were either neutral or defeated, Nazi Germany could have done the followings:

1. Joined the Japanese force, and drove the Allies out of India, Middle East and Africa. In this way, they had stable access to oil fields, and could power a new invasion to the UK.

2. Withdrew millions of troops from the East front and outnumbered the Allies when they landed in Normandy.

Etc.

Also, although USA might nuclear bomb German cities, in WWII, they could only carry nuclear heads with bombers. Without an air base in the UK, mass scale bombing would be impossible. In addition, the German rocket science is far more advanced. Who knew if they could be the first to invent ICBM. R&D during the war is always fast-paced.

More facts FYI, papers had revealed that the Japanese surrendered not because of the nuclear threat, but the Soviet's mass scale invasion into Manchuria.

Don't be an arrogant ass, and respect the contributions of your Allies (who did not enter the war after the tide had shifted).

Stop spreading fake news. There's no way the germans would have overran the british raj with the japanese.

Also nukes would have easily ended the germans.

Stop with your fake propaganda againsts the USA. As for hellykin, you done spreading fake news about how i'm a californian hippy yet?

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 19.01.2018 at 18:39

Stop spreading fake news. There's no way the germans would have overran the british raj with the japanese.

Also nukes would have easily ended the germans.

Stop with your fake propaganda againsts the USA. As for hellykin, you done spreading fake news about how i'm a californian hippy yet?

And then I ask others why does everyone dislike you here......