Afterwind, a story of missed opportunities

Greetings Helly here, tomorrow, on the 29th of September I am going to write a post about atwar in a abstract manner. This post will talk about what I believe made atwar so popular, why it declined, and what I believe we need to do in order to fix some of the issues we face today. Please I ask moderators to allow an honest discussion about what we can do for the future of atwar if it is to survive. I ask that you remove trolls and shit posters so we may have a serious discussion. I am writing this before hand as a disclaimer to the mods so if they have any problems with my future post to contact me so I may change it to comply with their standards, thank you.


I am going to focus on the first few parts what made this game so exceptional for me, then later on ill explain what I think could make it better, and what issues I believe are hurting our community the worst.





It was 2011 on Christmas break, I was apart of another community known as conqueror! http://www.conquerorgame.com/index2.php. A group of friends logged on and told us about another strategy game they found called afterwind, they boasted about how unique it was for a browser game and told a bunch of us to give it a try. So on December 9th 2011 I made my first guest account and hopped into a game, I picked south Africa because I was afraid of the other players and wanted to be able to expand and gain land. I immediately relised how large the atwar world map felt with so many player fighting for map supremacy, it felt bombastic and large, and full of opportunities to gain power to compete with the other players.

For me the opening presentation for this game was amazing, id never felt like I had so many opportunities for strategy before in a strategy game, best of all every player was another person competing so the maps felt dynamic and ever changing. Fast forward to may of 2012 and after casually coming back over the last few months I decided to make an account so my progress would save, and thus HellRaiserX666X was born and my career on atwar began.

Now I wasn't the best player ever, infact I flat out stunk at this game, my strategy was basically to be as annoying as possible and hope I could ally fag my way to survival, this did not work so well because most of the time people would decide to kill me immediately and if not I would of annoyed them into back stabbing me, you see I trolled because I was to poor at the game to be recognized for my skill. After a summer of playing like this I was approached by a player known as forever alone. He asked me if I wanted to join his clan he was rebuilding after a former leader known as bonker2 had purged the clan of its members, he told me I was rough around the edges but I had some unique ideas on game play and he thought id make a good addition to the clan, aswell he thought I was funny and liked my style. I decided id give it a shot, I was getting tired of being gang banged and raped by better players and I thought a clan could help me live longer in games. So I joined Stalins Martians as a rank four at Forever Alones request.

To summarize afterwind sucked me in with its unique approach to risk style province capturing and multiplayer play. I stayed because I enjoyed the interactions with other players while trying to gain superiority in each map. The politics and conversations where a key point to my enjoyment of the game.






Now its around march of 2013, iv met many people in stalins martians, Myself, Vdog, Dbacks, BertanK, Dburris, Snackwels, and many other members had begun clan warring and training to compete and win. Day in and day out we would clan war and and inner 3v3 learning new expansions and discovering new tactics to gain an advantage in combat. This was probably the most compelling time for me in atwar, it felt like we where all working twards a common goal greater then ourselves, pulling each other up and working twards being the best we could. I had never had an experience like this in a online game before, this made me extremely happy I had the group of people I did around me, they where so talented at afterwind and this made me want to get better and better myself.

So to summarize atwar had a plethora of first time experiences I had never been apart of before in any game prior, it gave me a sense of accomplishment id never felt before. This led me to come back time and time again to find my friends waiting for me, so we could continue our quest for 1st place.





As time went on, things became less and less amazing as time and time again we would do the same things over and over, couple that with the fact my good friends for years where also getting tired with the game and moving on. I believe this could of been avoided with proper meta evolution and new features to keep game play from stagnating, never the less around this time 2014-2015 I decided to liven things up for myself, I started making maps so I could invent the experiences I craved and missed so much from my first few years. So I took a break from competitive and focused on teaching myself to make maps, ofcourse just like when I found this game I was god aweful at it, but I kept on trying and so my first map was finally released, Hells Fallout World, https://atwar-game.com/map/?id=3452 . And so yah I was aweful but I had joined a small group of people who could actually call themselves map makers, and map after map I got better and better at it. The point being is this game me a new goal and hours and hours, days and days, Months and months, of new goals to work twards lengthening my time on atwar and keeping me interested.

So for me afterwind got me hooked with its unique gameplay and opportunities for political intrigue with real people, It kept me interested with its clan based competition and the friendships and skills I gained the harder I worked twards becoming the best, and finally I kept myself busy in my free time making maps, combining those three aspects kept the game interesting for years and years on end for me.




That's it for today tomorrow I will continue with what I believe is holding atwar back and what we can do to fix it, I need some more time to think about how I want to write these next few parts so bare with me sorry for the delay!

Tarafından yazıldı Witch-Doctor, 28.09.2018 at 23:41

Ofc this is the attention whore before the actual attention whore thread

I guess he should just play more duels, right? Plug his ears and pretend atwar is perfectly fine, right?

Tarafından yazıldı Sascha, 29.09.2018 at 08:36

You could've pmed some mods instead of making a public post...

I'm going to erase that text and put the post here today.

We all love the game and care for the game, our purpose is to serve this game as the game is always above us and its our duty to fight and die for it
what an honorable fate, feels proud

Tarafından yazıldı SyrianDevil, 29.09.2018 at 13:06

its our duty to fight and die for it
what an honorable fate, feels proud

If only you felt the same way about syria

Tarafından yazıldı Sascha, 29.09.2018 at 08:36

You could've pmed some mods instead of making a public post...

Looking forward for this thread, in case that I miss it you know you can message me.

Tarafından yazıldı clovis1122, 29.09.2018 at 17:08

Looking forward for this thread, in case that I miss it you know you can message me.

I'll let you know.

Tarafından yazıldı Sultan of Swing, 29.09.2018 at 17:04

Tarafından yazıldı Sascha, 29.09.2018 at 08:36

You could've pmed some mods instead of making a public post...

Where are you and lao now that I need your help lol. That's hypocrisy.

How could something that never rose, fall?

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 29.09.2018 at 18:14

How could something that never rose, fall?

''Day in and day out we would clan war and and inner 3v3 learning new expansions and discovering new tactics to gain an advantage in combat. ''

This is Helly, he's delusional.

Thread would be interesting if he stuck to facts.

Good thread
really nice to read
become a writer or something
i can relate to a lot of stuff here tho.

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed

Tarafından yazıldı b0nker2, 30.09.2018 at 05:18

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 29.09.2018 at 18:14

How could something that never rose, fall?

''Day in and day out we would clan war and and inner 3v3 learning new expansions and discovering new tactics to gain an advantage in combat. ''

This is Helly, he's delusional.

Thread would be interesting if he stuck to facts.

You where not even there lol, you where dicking around or inactive most of desus reign( where we won all our medals)

Edit: and yah like I said I wasnt the best I watched alot of the time and participated in the training wars, I wasnt trying to imply I was a key member in the clan back then. It took me alot longer then everyone else to get to a proper level of consistency required to clan war.

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 30.09.2018 at 08:17

Tarafından yazıldı b0nker2, 30.09.2018 at 05:18

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 29.09.2018 at 18:14

How could something that never rose, fall?

''Day in and day out we would clan war and and inner 3v3 learning new expansions and discovering new tactics to gain an advantage in combat. ''

This is Helly, he's delusional.

Thread would be interesting if he stuck to facts.

You where not even there lol, you where dicking around or inactive most of desus reign( where we won all our medals)

Edit: and yah like I said I wasnt the best I watched alot of the time and participated in the training wars, I wasnt trying to imply I was a key member in the clan back then. It took me alot longer then everyone else to get to a proper level of consistency required to clan war.

Actual facts now, the most active times in SM are when b0nker is active in SM. Not that SM history has any relevance in modern era, MK and Ily passed us by a mile. My objection is to you claiming to have made any expansions that carried over into the current. Stick to map making Helly, commentary on competitive is beyond your knowledge base.

Tldr

Tarafından yazıldı b0nker2, 30.09.2018 at 09:54

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 30.09.2018 at 08:17

Tarafından yazıldı b0nker2, 30.09.2018 at 05:18

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 29.09.2018 at 18:14

How could something that never rose, fall?

''Day in and day out we would clan war and and inner 3v3 learning new expansions and discovering new tactics to gain an advantage in combat. ''

This is Helly, he's delusional.

Thread would be interesting if he stuck to facts.

You where not even there lol, you where dicking around or inactive most of desus reign( where we won all our medals)

Edit: and yah like I said I wasnt the best I watched alot of the time and participated in the training wars, I wasnt trying to imply I was a key member in the clan back then. It took me alot longer then everyone else to get to a proper level of consistency required to clan war.

Actual facts now, the most active times in SM are when b0nker is active in SM. Not that SM history has any relevance in modern era, MK and Ily passed us by a mile. My objection is to you claiming to have made any expansions that carried over into the current. Stick to map making Helly, commentary on competitive is beyond your knowledge base.

I don't know where you read that or made you think that lol. I was being pretty damn humble. If dbacks and vdog discovered something new and shared it with the clan was I not learning a new expansion? Your missing the point anyways, these first three sections where about how I found atwar, what made it appealing and why I stayed for so damn long. The next sections will be about what is wrong with atwar and how to fix it.

Tarafından yazıldı Acquiesce, 30.09.2018 at 10:12

Tldr

That's why I made it in sections, you can skip to the suggestions part when I write it.

Well said so far, waiting for the next few parts!

I'm just here for Bonker vs Helly now.

Tarafından yazıldı Acquiesce, 30.09.2018 at 10:12

Tldr

same

Furthermore, I consider that NWE must be destroyed

Where the fuck is part four

Looking forward for next part, enjoyed reading so far, even though some parts are not so true

Tarafından yazıldı b0nker2, 30.09.2018 at 09:54

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 30.09.2018 at 08:17

Tarafından yazıldı b0nker2, 30.09.2018 at 05:18

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 29.09.2018 at 18:14

How could something that never rose, fall?

''Day in and day out we would clan war and and inner 3v3 learning new expansions and discovering new tactics to gain an advantage in combat. ''

This is Helly, he's delusional.

Thread would be interesting if he stuck to facts.

You where not even there lol, you where dicking around or inactive most of desus reign( where we won all our medals)

Edit: and yah like I said I wasnt the best I watched alot of the time and participated in the training wars, I wasnt trying to imply I was a key member in the clan back then. It took me alot longer then everyone else to get to a proper level of consistency required to clan war.

Actual facts now, the most active times in SM are when b0nker is active in SM. Not that SM history has any relevance in modern era, MK and Ily passed us by a mile. My objection is to you claiming to have made any expansions that carried over into the current. Stick to map making Helly, commentary on competitive is beyond your knowledge base.

MK and Illy surpassed SM because of your, already well known, period purges. In every AW generation , you decide to have hormonal problems and kick everyone, that's how the best SM players became the best players of other clans, good job

Tarafından yazıldı Acquiesce, 30.09.2018 at 10:12

Tldr

And this is why our mods are trash. ::preparing to receive b&hammer for free speech::

Tarafından yazıldı Director Aries, 14.10.2018 at 19:49

Tarafından yazıldı Acquiesce, 30.09.2018 at 10:12

Tldr

And this is why our mods are trash. ::preparing to receive b&hammer for free speech::

banned

Tarafından yazıldı Sultan of Swing, 14.10.2018 at 22:15

Tarafından yazıldı Director Aries, 14.10.2018 at 19:49

Tarafından yazıldı Acquiesce, 30.09.2018 at 10:12

Tldr

And this is why our mods are trash. ::preparing to receive b&hammer for free speech::

banned

I knew it

Still waiting for that Part Four. Will you wait to post it for four years as some sort-of ironic in-joke making fun of the Map Editor?

Part 4

Tarafından yazıldı Mr Tyler, 15.10.2018 at 22:21

Part 4

This weekend I'll finish something came up and I haven't had time.

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 14.10.2018 at 15:12

Looking forward for next part, enjoyed reading so far, even though some parts are not so true

Tarafından yazıldı b0nker2, 30.09.2018 at 09:54

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 30.09.2018 at 08:17

Tarafından yazıldı b0nker2, 30.09.2018 at 05:18

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 29.09.2018 at 18:14

How could something that never rose, fall?

''Day in and day out we would clan war and and inner 3v3 learning new expansions and discovering new tactics to gain an advantage in combat. ''

This is Helly, he's delusional.

Thread would be interesting if he stuck to facts.

You where not even there lol, you where dicking around or inactive most of desus reign( where we won all our medals)

Edit: and yah like I said I wasnt the best I watched alot of the time and participated in the training wars, I wasnt trying to imply I was a key member in the clan back then. It took me alot longer then everyone else to get to a proper level of consistency required to clan war.

Actual facts now, the most active times in SM are when b0nker is active in SM. Not that SM history has any relevance in modern era, MK and Ily passed us by a mile. My objection is to you claiming to have made any expansions that carried over into the current. Stick to map making Helly, commentary on competitive is beyond your knowledge base.

MK and Illy surpassed SM because of your, already well known, period purges. In every AW generation , you decide to have hormonal problems and kick everyone, that's how the best SM players became the best players of other clans, good job

1) Who are you?
2) Actually there was only one purge in 2012 thank you for remembering this 6 and half years later.
3) MK and Illy surpassed us as they are better (or no lifers you pick)
4) Who exactly are these 'best players'? I see 1 true martian who left and got better.
5) Im remembered for purges, your best accolade is being a discount Tito
6) Have a nice day.

Tarafından yazıldı b0nker2, 16.10.2018 at 13:55

1) Who are you?
2) Actually there was only one purge in 2012 thank you for remembering this 6 and half years later.
3) MK and Illy surpassed us as they are better (or no lifers you pick)
4) Who exactly are these 'best players'? I see 1 true martian who left and got better.
5) Im remembered for purges, your best accolade is being a discount Tito
6) Have a nice day.

You enjoy insulting as a way to avoid direct answer to my question, it signals insecurity of oneself and it is a bad try to avoid truth. Last purge was in second part of 2016, when you got angry and could not control yourself because Goden and few other players left to make The Bermuda Triangle. For a change, you could use facts when you want to asnwer someone, rather than pure rage. Your 4th point shows how much you cared about players in SM, since i could start numbering 10-15 players that started in SM and played in other clans at their peak.