North Korea backs Scottish Independence

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11089388/North-Korea-backs-Scottish-independence.html
North Korea best Korea

Good post. Makes you think why most of the EU is opposed to true Scottish independence.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 04:47

We should all support scottish independence, they suffered enough under english boots.

I hope they will give movie ''Braveheart'' on the scottish TV day before referendum.

This is so incorrect. Scotland alone will quite literally destroy it. Their progressive pseudo nationalist party which bases its nationalism on self victim hood rather than pride and strength will no long have access to British subsidies. They will still be subservient to the EU, they will no longer have the pound and their social democratic policies will ruin them.

I am slowly coming around to the conclusion that this has to happen. I love my Celtic brethren and we all mutually have to deal with these wretched parties of little substance. But the status quo must be opposed, Scottish independence wont save Scotland, it will make it worse but it will destroy a Labour base. It will ruin the Conservatives who lost Scotland under their watch. It will utterly wreck the political shape of Britain, leaving it ripe for radicalism.

Of course, it will be my brand of radicalism.

I read a editorial by Nigel Farage, can't find it anymore but he says that Scotland's new masters will become Brussels instead of London, interesting.

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 13.09.2014 at 05:43

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 04:47

We should all support scottish independence, they suffered enough under english boots.

I hope they will give movie ''Braveheart'' on the scottish TV day before referendum.

This is so incorrect. Scotland alone will quite literally destroy it. Their progressive pseudo nationalist party which bases its nationalism on self victim hood rather than pride and strength will no long have access to British subsidies. They will still be subservient to the EU, they will no longer have the pound and their social democratic policies will ruin them.

I am slowly coming around to the conclusion that this has to happen. I love my Celtic brethren and we all mutually have to deal with these wretched parties of little substance. But the status quo must be opposed, Scottish independence wont save Scotland, it will make it worse but it will destroy a Labour base. It will ruin the Conservatives who lost Scotland under their watch. It will utterly wreck the political shape of Britain, leaving it ripe for radicalism.

Of course, it will be my brand of radicalism.

Scotland deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Personally, i think scotlands economy would be ruined from breaking off from the UK but i do have one question. I have always had a hard time understanding the relationship between scotland, england, wales, and northern ireland. how exactly does the government operate? i know its a constitutional monarchy but I was wondering how each section(or state/country?) is represented in the overall government (if they are represented at all). I always had the impression that scotland and england had more of a confederation like agreement. But this whole referendum thing makes me realize how wrong (at least I think) I am.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 08:04

This is so incorrect. Scotland alone will prosper more than in the last 50 years in Britain. Because they discovered oil and gas reserves.

Britain will control them. The Scots aren't going to get them.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 08:04

Now they will open more oil companies, employ more people, government will have more money to spend on social programs, probably free healthcare, free education(beside private healthcare insurance and private schools), to maintain and upgrade infrastructure.

They already have this. Its why Scotland is such a shithole. Its progressive socialism, it does not give proper incentives, it doesn't invest in infrastructure. It creates unsustainable systems of debt. They are social democrats. I know how the system works. These people are victim Nationalists, worse than you. The Scots are a very racial people and their government wont be. They will get the same taste of the third world that Ireland and England are getting.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 08:04

Scotland will be a rainy foggy paradise. 5 million scots will live better than 30 million english. Lets not talk about investment from foreign companies and states. China is always thirsty for oil, they will be buyer of scottish oil, that will be secure profit for scots. Russia can sell technology and equipment to extract oil, and machines for infranstructure. I see bright future for Great Scotland.

Scotland isn't getting the oil. Name a single citation that says Scotland is going to get North Sea Oil. You wont find one.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 08:04

England wants to scare Scotland by saying ''if you secede, you have to apply for EU membership again''.

They will, obviously.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 08:04

Scotland doesn't have to apply for EU, it is already in EU.

Do you even understand treaties or International Law? The British Union is in the EU. Scotland, as part of the UK is. As an independent, it is not. I'm sure the EU will take them, and the EU will put them on a leash like they did to everyone else. The EU will enforce an identical government on Scotland, nothing will change. Scotland will be the same except poorer and with an even worse government. Which is incredible considering the one it has now.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 08:04

I hope then Putin and SCO/EaU/BRIC will call Scotland to join them

Scotland wouldn't take it and the East wouldn't offer it.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 08:04

Anyway, even if Scotland go bankrupt after secession, it will be better, because it will be their own misery, atleast they tried, better to grab a chance and try to make a better living than to be english servant for eternity. They should search for their own path. Same applies for Wales and Northern Ireland, they should decide their own future, not London.

That is like calling Eastern Russia a servant to Moscow. Scots get far greater privileges than the English, they get huge subsidies. When they leave, they wont get them anymore, they wont have the oil to pay for them.

The British Isles might split, but it will be unified again. We are one people, divided by the establishment. We will be united under an ethno state when the dust settles.

Tarafından yazıldı Kilikian ARM, 13.09.2014 at 06:50

Scotland deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Kosovo deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Croatia deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Ukraine deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
ISIS deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Chechnya deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Russians are the worst hypocrites of all. Currently arming and bombing a nation they signed a treaty with which promised no action if Ukraine got rid of its nukes. Then they steal Crimea and arm, fund and attack Ukrainians who want independence.

This forum is so pathetic, its understanding of geo politics is child like.

Tarafından yazıldı Pheonixking929, 13.09.2014 at 07:47

Personally, i think scotlands economy would be ruined from breaking off from the UK but i do have one question. I have always had a hard time understanding the relationship between scotland, england, wales, and northern ireland. how exactly does the government operate? i know its a constitutional monarchy but I was wondering how each section(or state/country?) is represented in the overall government (if they are represented at all). I always had the impression that scotland and england had more of a confederation like agreement. But this whole referendum thing makes me realize how wrong (at least I think) I am.

Everyone except England has its own Parliament. The Union hurts the English the most actually. They get no representation while other states are mass subsidised by the English taxpayers. Wales and Scotland have much greater access to healthcare and education because of this. Not that it does any good, these systems are awfully unsustainable, like most social democratic systems.

Only National Socialism is sustainable for general welfare.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:15

Thats retarded, stupid, ignorant, evil and autist.

tito for prez!

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:04

Why wouldnt Russia and China call Scotland to join their alliance? There are Kazakhstan, Brazil, India and South Africa as well. Soon Iran, Syria, Vietnam, Bulgaria and we would like to see Scotland as well.

SCO doesn't include Brazil and certainly not South Africa. Bulgaria? Ha ha. They just joined a NATO agreement. 'WE' You talk like you are in command, you aren't, you are delusional about your own country and how it operates. It will not seek any alliance with Scotland. Why not? Because it would be a burden. Much better to let the EU take it on and deal with its debt.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:04

Oil and gas in Scotland and north sea near Scotland belongs to Scotland.

Near? Its in waters owned by the United Kingdom, within International water. Not Scotland. Like I said, find a single citation where Scotland will get North Sea Oil. You wont because it isn't going to happen. China claims massive swarthes of the East China sea not even near its territory. I have never seen tyou call them out on such ridiculous claims. If oil rich oblasts of Russia wanted to secede, would Russia let them? NO! Less than a month ago, you said nations seceding from Russia should have half their populations exterminated. Yet here you are, playing a moral high ground you continually fail to hold when discussing your own interests.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:04

When british isles split there isnt a chance even inna dream to unify again. That would be over, history. Because british isles were united under english king, after english invasions and oppression. There weren't asked to join as free sovereign states into united kingdom, but forced.

And Russia didnt expand through violence. No, it was a quiet, peaceful state that expanded through peace talks. Please... This is why you are a consistent bufoon. You re write History with a false moral perspective. Scotland prospered under Britain. It was Ireland who got the bad parts and the Scots eagerly took part in that as well.

The British Isles will unite again. England will become National Socialist, Scotland will fail and so will Ireland. They will seek Union again but on different times, consensually. We are one people, divided by an establishment that will unify again.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:15

National Socialism, is communism(socialism) for one nation.

Its far more than that.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:15

Thats retarded, stupid, ignorant, evil and autist.

A better system is retarded? Evil? Why? Because we seek excellence and social cohesion?

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:15

Because communism as capitalism cannot work in autarky, it need to trade, multculti, integrate and interconnect.

Multiculti? HA HA. Russia doesn't support that policy, it demands naturalization. Of course your dirty communism was multi culti, it was run by a tribe who hated the concept of ethnicity, it sought to destroy these identities to rule over them all. Bastardising a culture and people does not make it better. It destroys it. Look at what communism did to Russia. Your great communist society destroyed Russia.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:15

National Socialism aka Nazism is good for one nation that pursue that ideology as it will give them good social policy, but it is bad towards others, neighbors and the world.

Its bad because? You say it is? Hilarious. You assume it cant trade with other nations. It isn't our responsibility or our authority to enforce such a view on others. We are non interventionists unlike your sick minded ilk who wants o bastardise and enslave the world.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:15

Nazi Germany give germans subsidies, land, homes, cheap labor, but they took Poland,

So did Russia. HA HA. Poland annexed Ukraine and Lithuania as well as murdering Germans in Dan Zig while refusing to give the Germans the Prussian corridor. They got cocky after the alliance with Britain and got what they deserved for their arrogance.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:15

deported poles,

Hitlers closest bodyguard was a Pole. They also uncovered the massacre by the soviets of the Polish government. Stalin refused to give the poles a nation while the Germans agreed to.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:15

enslaved europe and used them as slaves in Germany. Thats immoral and unethical.

Enslaved? The French and Austrians loved it. Highest birth rates they had seen in decades. Millions of men volunteered for the SS across Europe.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:11

West is pathetic.

Its not pathetic. Its geo politics. The difference is I'm not a member of their cabal and I don't appreciate such tactics used against me when I am not a hypocrite. Stop playing moral high grounds you do not and never will hold.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:11

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 13.09.2014 at 08:54

Kosovo deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Croatia deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Ukraine deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
ISIS deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Chechnya deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Russians are the worst hypocrites of all. Currently arming and bombing a nation they signed a treaty with which promised no action if Ukraine got rid of its nukes. Then they steal Crimea and arm, fund and attack Ukrainians who want independence.

This forum is so pathetic, its understanding of geo politics is child like.

This forum is probably pathetic, but Western Hemisphere on this planet is more pathetic and hypocritical. United States make law saying secession is ok, then USA invade Confederation and bring them back to the Union. then 150 years later they support rebels who secede from Yugoslavia and Soviet Union. Untied States recognize Kosovo secesion, but condemn Crimea's secesion.

Then United States ''tweet'' ''proof'' of drawings showing how russians are invading ukraine.

West is pathetic.

last i checked, it was confederate naval ships that attacked a union fort.... but im glad you support slavery

Tarafından yazıldı Pheonixking929, 13.09.2014 at 10:03

last i checked, it was confederate naval ships that attacked a union fort.... but im glad you support slavery

Incorrect. Lincoln was a dictator and the North sought to enslave the south. It raised tariffs and taxes to ridiculous numbers and effectively ruled government without the need for a single Southern vote. They also sought to take to seize the ports of the South. The South wanted independence from a government that didnt represent them and utterly destroyed their economy by bleeding it dry unfairly.

Slavery was a common practice across the world for thousands of years. The Ottomans, South America,s East Asians continued it long after the American Civil War or the British banning of it. The slaves of the East were far more brutalised than the slaves of the west who were not only allowed to keep their balls, but were also entitled to a certain standard of living.

Slavery would have ended very soon after the South seceded because without the press gangs of whites conscripted to track and return escaped slaves, the system wouldn't be able to operate. They would escape north and be free. Slaves were being freed at a large rate in the south already, it was a small matter of time.

The American Civil War had nothing to do with slavery and everything to do with Northern industrialists fearing Southern trade and labour. Under his rule, Lincoln enacted policies that even today's President wouldn't dare do... for the moment.

Also, white guilt is a disgusting and dirty tactic. Using slavery as an argument is a dirty low and misinformed argumentative tactic. There will be no white guilt tripping under my watch, take it back to Reddit. It has no place here.

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 13.09.2014 at 10:11

Tarafından yazıldı Pheonixking929, 13.09.2014 at 10:03

last i checked, it was confederate naval ships that attacked a union fort.... but im glad you support slavery

Incorrect. Lincoln was a dictator and the North sought to enslave the south. It raised tariffs and taxes to ridiculous numbers and effectively ruled government without the need for a single Southern vote. They also sought to take to seize the ports of the South. The South wanted independence from a government that didnt represent them and utterly destroyed their economy by bleeding it dry unfairly.

Slavery was a common practice across the world for thousands of years. The Ottomans, South America,s East Asians continued it long after the American Civil War or the British banning of it. The slaves of the East were far more brutalised than the slaves of the west who were not only allowed to keep their balls, but were also entitled to a certain standard of living.

Slavery would have ended very soon after the South seceded because without the press gangs of whites conscripted to track and return escaped slaves, the system wouldn't be able to operate. They would escape north and be free. Slaves were being freed at a large rate in the south already, it was a small matter of time.

The American Civil War had nothing to do with slavery and everything to do with Northern industrialists fearing Southern trade and labour. Under his rule, Lincoln enacted policies that even today's President wouldn't dare do... for the moment.

i see your point. yes, i know the civil war wasnt all about slavery (more about states rights. south was based on slave labor economy and traded with other nations. tarrifs to protect home businesses caused the major economic collapse in the south. of ocurse, this is just a very summed up reasoning for the south succeeding. obviously the causes were more complex). i dont see slavery falling in the south quickly. if war did not break out though, im still on the fence if they could have propped themselves up and actually lasted.

Tik-tok is whipping tito on a leash

Tarafından yazıldı Pheonixking929, 13.09.2014 at 10:03

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:11

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 13.09.2014 at 08:54

Kosovo deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Croatia deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Ukraine deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
ISIS deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Chechnya deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Russians are the worst hypocrites of all. Currently arming and bombing a nation they signed a treaty with which promised no action if Ukraine got rid of its nukes. Then they steal Crimea and arm, fund and attack Ukrainians who want independence.

This forum is so pathetic, its understanding of geo politics is child like.

This forum is probably pathetic, but Western Hemisphere on this planet is more pathetic and hypocritical. United States make law saying secession is ok, then USA invade Confederation and bring them back to the Union. then 150 years later they support rebels who secede from Yugoslavia and Soviet Union. Untied States recognize Kosovo secesion, but condemn Crimea's secesion.

Then United States ''tweet'' ''proof'' of drawings showing how russians are invading ukraine.

West is pathetic.

last i checked, it was confederate naval ships that attacked a union fort.... but im glad you support slavery

>The war to end slavery.

The civil war is more complicated than that.

Tarafından yazıldı Tundy, 13.09.2014 at 10:28

Tarafından yazıldı Pheonixking929, 13.09.2014 at 10:03

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 13.09.2014 at 09:11

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 13.09.2014 at 08:54

Kosovo deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Croatia deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Ukraine deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
ISIS deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Chechnya deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Russians are the worst hypocrites of all. Currently arming and bombing a nation they signed a treaty with which promised no action if Ukraine got rid of its nukes. Then they steal Crimea and arm, fund and attack Ukrainians who want independence.

This forum is so pathetic, its understanding of geo politics is child like.

This forum is probably pathetic, but Western Hemisphere on this planet is more pathetic and hypocritical. United States make law saying secession is ok, then USA invade Confederation and bring them back to the Union. then 150 years later they support rebels who secede from Yugoslavia and Soviet Union. Untied States recognize Kosovo secesion, but condemn Crimea's secesion.

Then United States ''tweet'' ''proof'' of drawings showing how russians are invading ukraine.

West is pathetic.

last i checked, it was confederate naval ships that attacked a union fort.... but im glad you support slavery

>The war to end slavery.

The civil war is more complicated than that.

omg, i corrected myself already. gtfo or im calling thor

Tarafından yazıldı Trooper21, 13.09.2014 at 10:17

Tik-tok is whipping tito on a leash

Cookies are tasty.

Tarafından yazıldı Meester, 13.09.2014 at 11:43

Cookies are tasty.

i like chocolate chip with m&ms :3

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 13.09.2014 at 08:54

Tarafından yazıldı Kilikian ARM, 13.09.2014 at 06:50

Scotland deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Kosovo deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Croatia deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Ukraine deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
ISIS deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Chechnya deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Russians are the worst hypocrites of all. Currently arming and bombing a nation they signed a treaty with which promised no action if Ukraine got rid of its nukes. Then they steal Crimea and arm, fund and attack Ukrainians who want independence.

This forum is so pathetic, its understanding of geo politics is child like.

what are you doting about?

Scotland will not gain independence with massacres and war crimes like other entities you named.

they have been deprived of their homeland and freedom by force and injustice, they definitely deserve their freedom whenever they decide to obtain it

last time I checked, Croatia and Ukraine are independent, Fuckin 3rd world ISPs giving us outdated google search results

the only reason you are against the Scottish independence is that because it runs against UK's interests and will have serious impact on the economic, political and social situation

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 13.09.2014 at 08:54

Tarafından yazıldı Kilikian ARM, 13.09.2014 at 06:50

Scotland deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Kosovo deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Croatia deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Ukraine deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
ISIS deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Chechnya deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Russians are the worst hypocrites of all. Currently arming and bombing a nation they signed a treaty with which promised no action if Ukraine got rid of its nukes. Then they steal Crimea and arm, fund and attack Ukrainians who want independence.

This forum is so pathetic, its understanding of geo politics is child like.

Kosovo's independence declaration in 2008 is legit, says the International Court of Justice (ICJ). But the ruling may create a precedent for separatist movements worldwide. Russia opposed Kosovo's independence.
Russia had warned the West that Kosovo would open a Pandora's Box, setting off separatism and territorial conflicts in Europe and elsewhere .
Scotland independence seems legit also axaxaxx
after 18 September 2014 Tik-Tok wake up in Smal Britain

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 13.09.2014 at 05:43

...

They will still be subservient to the EU...
...

Wait, is North Korea supporting true independence of Scotland, or EU subservience as a condition? It seems implied they are supporting Scottish independence.

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 13.09.2014 at 08:54

Tarafından yazıldı Kilikian ARM, 13.09.2014 at 06:50

Scotland deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Kosovo deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Croatia deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Ukraine deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
ISIS deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.
Chechnya deserves independence, let them worry about their own future, if they want it to work they can make it work.

Russians are the worst hypocrites of all. Currently arming and bombing a nation they signed a treaty with which promised no action if Ukraine got rid of its nukes. Then they steal Crimea and arm, fund and attack Ukrainians who want independence.

This forum is so pathetic, its understanding of geo politics is child like.

1. Kosovo is so poor they need to be part of Serbia to get better.
2. I guess
3. No, no just no. >executions >warcrimes
4. They dont seem to want it right now

They didn't sign a treaty with a neo-nazi government that installed it's self in the coup.

North Korean want independence of North part of any country

XD

LOL

Tarafından yazıldı minusSeven, 15.09.2014 at 11:57

North Korean want independence of North part of any country

#freekarelia2014
#freeprussia2014
#freeTheUnion2014
#freeUlster2014
#freenormandy2014