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Tarafından gönderildi Witch-Doctor, 31.12.2018 - 18:10
This guide shows the chance of winning battles vs neutrals if you send X amount of units. Expanding efficiently is one of the steepest learning curve in atwar so use this to learn how many units to send in your expansion. All of this is assuming your units have 5 crits. Result may change slightly if you have more or less crit so adjust accordingly.


How much you send is vertical axis.

Expanding vs militia using 4 attack unit (infantry).



Expanding vs infantry using 4 attack unit (infantry)


Expanding vs militia using 3 attack unit (imp infantry) - tested with 5% crit.


Expanding vs infantry using 3 attack unit (imp infantry) - tested with 5% crit


Expanding vs militia using 7 attack unit (marines, imp tanks, pd tanks, nc tanks, etc...)


Expanding vs infantry using 7 attack unit (marines, imp tanks, pd tanks, nc tanks, etc...)



I will expand this thread later with tanks (8 att) vs militia/inf and also special amounts people may send or I send.
14.07.2021 - 11:06
Tarafından yazıldı Daisy91old, 14.07.2021 at 11:02


And no Karlo. Our units act like having 3-4 hp. The upgrades are there, we have 5 capacity AT and so on.

Please download OBS and record it I am genuinely intrigued
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14.07.2021 - 11:12
Tarafından yazıldı Karlo18, 14.07.2021 at 11:06

Tarafından yazıldı Daisy91old, 14.07.2021 at 11:02


And no Karlo. Our units act like having 3-4 hp. The upgrades are there, we have 5 capacity AT and so on.

Please download OBS and record it I am genuinely intrigued


There's the evidence of me and jugers. I don't know of other cases yet but we believe it's related to the CO upgrade.

We tried Iron Fist and sometimes we get good rolls (3 tanks killing 5-6 militia). Which gives a slight idea that this is an HP effect.
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14.07.2021 - 11:13
You have to record/take pictures of the rolls in details so we get the full picture of what's going on. (take picture of each roll independently not the final results of the battles)
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14.07.2021 - 11:20
 Mobster (Mod)
Yeah, send screenshot of each roll. Average attack of some tanks should be like 4,90 for example (without stacking bonuses)
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14.07.2021 - 12:54
Tarafından yazıldı Daisy91old, 14.07.2021 at 11:02

Tarafından yazıldı Froyer, 14.07.2021 at 08:52

He should check his battlescreen if he has a bug


YoU'rE lYiNg


Tarafından yazıldı Karlo18, 14.07.2021 at 11:01

Looks like upgrades are disabled for Jugers somehow, should ask someone like dave to look into it if it happens very often


And no Karlo. Our units act like having 3-4 hp. The upgrades are there, we have 5 capacity AT and so on.

Again check battlescreen if they have 3-4 hp you'll see it lol
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14.07.2021 - 22:35
Haha juger is getting karlo rolls
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15.07.2021 - 06:38
 Oleg
Tarafından yazıldı Daisy91old, 13.07.2021 at 10:01

First try
PD, sent inf units = city militia + 1 (3 inf against 2 mil, 5 inf against 4 mil, etc.)
gen in Slovakia
[im.g]https://i.imgur.com/AwpMORQ.png[/img]

Second try
PD, same units sent as first time
gen in Slovakia
[im.g]https://i.imgur.com/LjO1CSq.png[/img]

Third try
PD, sent inf units = city militia + 2 (6 inf against 4 mil, 3 inf against 1mil, etc.)
gen in Slovakia
[im.g]https://i.imgur.com/0eFGSYT.png[/img]

This can't be pd
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18.07.2021 - 12:38
Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 15.07.2021 at 06:38

This can't be pd




Look I made an updated one only for you 5 mins ago.

sent 1 more infantry than the militia in each city, except gdansk (1 inf there), gen in slovakia like on the previous pictures, and still PD (yes, tried disabling and enabling pd at default strat, tried changing it multiple times or 0 times at start, no effect so far)

and by the way, i get different kind of bugs with every strat, for example sky menace bombers also roll 1-2 90% instead of 1-8


also, for comparison Dr. Prof. Pavle

with hw


with imp


with lb


As you may know by now Dr. Prof. Pavle the Greatest Atwar Player in Existence, Breaker of Chains, Father of Noobs, imp rolls are quite similar to my PD. This is because of the fact my infantry rolls 1-2 90% of the time and i cannot crit higher than 5 or 6. This makes my rolls very similar to imp, which has 3 attack inf, but I barely roll 3, you know.

It could be important to note as well that my LB rolls are the best so far but still having 80-85% win rate despite of claimed to be 99.999% on paper. If we go further with the idea that I roll only 1 and 2, thus crit only 5 and 6, you can calculate that i have about 80% success with militia+1 inf. And I can confirm this as I play atwar for 8 years, Pavle.

Also me and Jugers are on the opinion that Dave modified our rolls on purpose and this is not a bug since we are the only 2 players on atWar having this, I find it impossible to be an unintended bug. For this reason I'm not going to report it, it would make no sense. Already told to Mecoy and Croat though.
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18.07.2021 - 14:14
 Oleg
Tarafından yazıldı Daisy91old, 18.07.2021 at 12:38

zip


+1 on militia count everywhere except Belgium, Copenhagen, Czech and Vienna (+2 there), This is 95+%th percentile expansion.
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18.07.2021 - 14:23
Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 18.07.2021 at 14:14

+1 on militia count everywhere except Belgium, Copenhagen, Czech and Vienna (+2 there), This is 95+%th percentile expansion.


I tried on Guest account, 0 failed.
I can show you more but I'll rather play other games for now as I'm nerfed on purpose along with Jugers.
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23.07.2023 - 16:22
Ur telling me i lost a 99.60% (7 attack boat vs 1 militia)
I cant escape my bad luck even on this game
Edit: it was a 9 attack boat. So even worse imp cruiser
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