Mapmakers Strike

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 11.06.2014 at 02:50

You have to think of the consequences that comes with this, and how easily it can be used as a trolling mechanism. This will single handedly make some players with those legitimate reasons for leaving losing out on one of there favorite scenarios or map. Also, how the already current trolls can completely abuse this against players that they just simply don't like. I think this will cause more problems in the future then how many problems it can fix right now.

Hmm. How many trolls are also accomplished map-makers, boasting popular maps and scenarios?

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:53

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 11.06.2014 at 02:50

You have to think of the consequences that comes with this, and how easily it can be used as a trolling mechanism. This will single handedly make some players with those legitimate reasons for leaving losing out on one of there favorite scenarios or map. Also, how the already current trolls can completely abuse this against players that they just simply don't like. I think this will cause more problems in the future then how many problems it can fix right now.

Hmm. How many trolls are also accomplished map-makers, boasting popular maps and scenarios?

Honestly, you would be surprised. Most of the afterwind map makers don't conduct themselves the way they should towards the players. I can guarantee you 5+ map makers (well known/often maps) If you'd like I can inbox it to you so I don't make a big public ordeal about it.

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 11.06.2014 at 02:50

You have to think of the consequences that comes with this, and how easily it can be used as a trolling mechanism. This will single handedly make some players with those legitimate reasons for leaving losing out on one of there favorite scenarios or map. Also, how the already current trolls can completely abuse this against players that they just simply don't like. I think this will cause more problems in the future then how many problems it can fix right now.

Mapmakers already have the power to do this. They could unpublish and only play private games. Mapmaker content belongs to the creators. I've never banned players for personal reasons, If I have, I've corrected the mistake within a day. My maps have simple rules which people like you and your friends enjoy breaking to ruin them. On many occasions you have sought out to ruin these games, you think its funny, we dont.

Time and time again, you claim 3vs3 is superior and scenarios are lame and shit. Now you complain you might not be able to play them? Which is it?

Some mapmakers might ban people for personal reasons but thats their issue. This is the norm in all servers in most games where admins ban trolls. When we get a ban list, I will only add minor troll accounts. Main accounts on my ban lists will be given amnesty if they ask. I also wont be adding you or LeLouche.

But LeLouche and the other troll still deserve week long suspensions for what they did. They wasted over 3 hours of our time relentlessly ruining that game. You were also happy to do this. I warned you that the reaction would be immense and here it is, now you whimper at the prospect of not being allowed to ruin or play further scenarios?

You caused that. These are the consequences.

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 11.06.2014 at 03:37

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 11.06.2014 at 02:50

You have to think of the consequences that comes with this, and how easily it can be used as a trolling mechanism. This will single handedly make some players with those legitimate reasons for leaving losing out on one of there favorite scenarios or map. Also, how the already current trolls can completely abuse this against players that they just simply don't like. I think this will cause more problems in the future then how many problems it can fix right now.

Mapmakers already have the power to do this. They could unpublish and only play private games. Mapmaker content belongs to the creators. I've never banned players for personal reasons, If I have, I've corrected the mistake within a day. My maps have simple rules which people like you and your friends enjoy breaking to ruin them. On many occasions you have sought out to ruin these games, you think its funny, we dont.

Time and time again, you claim 3vs3 is superior and scenarios are lame and shit. Now you complain you might not be able to play them? Which is it?

Some mapmakers might ban people for personal reasons but thats their issue. This is the norm in all servers in most games where admins ban trolls. When we get a ban list, I will only add minor troll accounts. Main accounts on my ban lists will be given amnesty if they ask. I also wont be adding you or LeLouche.

But LeLouche and the other troll still deserve week long suspensions for what they did. They wasted over 3 hours of our time relentlessly ruining that game. You were also happy to do this. I warned you that the reaction would be immense and here it is, now you whimper at the prospect of not being allowed to ruin or play further scenarios?

You caused that. These are the consequences.

I don't think scenarios should be ruined. If that's what they like to play don't ruin it. When I post in room chat after seeing it failing due to the player you let in instead of me, ofcourse that dues for a laugh.. Also I do play scenarios, I just like 3v3s!

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:44

Tik-Tok, your original post begins with "Negotiations failed. Its time to go on strike." - that seems strange to me, since I've never heard of this issue before and certainly didn't have any negotiations.

The incident which wasted over 3-4 hours of our time where multiple high ranks ruined our games by leaving within seconds of starting turn was commited in front of a moderator. The trolls boasted about what they did, they admitted it openly. If someone has to leave but within seconds returns to laugh at players and high five fellow trolls about what they just did, its clear cut. When these players get friends from the same coalition to repeat this 3 more times, with a moderator told and watching. Its not an ambiugous scenario.

These players were given mild 'warnings' so guilt was already asserted. The point was that the punishment didnt fit the crime. Mods didnt act the way they should and the trolls continued their spree while mocking players games they ruined. In this forum they continue to act cocky, mocking YOUR rules and those ciaiming to uphold them. The lack of punishment and reaction forced us to act, we dont trust mods to do their job so we wanted a in game ban list.

This incident was commited in front of a mod who saw the whole thing. 13 other players saw it. Guilt was asserted but no proper punishment given.

Their "●" should be removed for a start.

But thank you for the proposed ban list.

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 11.06.2014 at 03:44

I don't think scenarios should be ruined. If that's what they like to play don't ruin it. When I post in room chat after seeing it failing due to the player you let in instead of me, ofcourse that dues for a laugh.. Also I do play scenarios, I just like 3v3s!

Dont pretend you didnt set it up with the other guy. Your own coalition members told me all about it. Do not lie to me. Even they were disgusted by your behaviour.

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 11.06.2014 at 03:50

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 11.06.2014 at 03:44

I don't think scenarios should be ruined. If that's what they like to play don't ruin it. When I post in room chat after seeing it failing due to the player you let in instead of me, ofcourse that dues for a laugh.. Also I do play scenarios, I just like 3v3s!

Dont pretend you didnt set it up with the other guy. Your own coalition members told me all about it. Do not lie to me. Even they were disgusted by your behaviour.

I did not orchestrate it. And my clan members know if clan chat is leaked! BAM! kicked! So please, don't point fingers, nor drag my innocent clan members into this. You can't make such accusations without proof. But I thought you SS everything?

Tarafından yazıldı Beezlebub, 10.06.2014 at 17:47

You know there are more civilized methods of getting what you want instead of ruining the game experience of the players.

All the more "civilized" methods failed miserably, as you can see even from the posts in this thread. Cthulhu says he "punished" the player, yet his post is followed by countless posts of the same troll who is floating around freely, and who continues to laugh in our faces, after openly admitting he did it. It's unbelievable. Then my eyes light up for a second with hope when I see columna saying punishment will be enforced. Then the next post belongs to... guess who, that's exactly right, the TROLL . Wow. That was some harsh punishment right there, way to go. I bet it stang a bit.

Tarafından yazıldı Emperor Lelouch, 10.06.2014 at 17:26

Lets see how long ur fellow map makers last before they republish thier maps

This is what I'm talking about. There are dozens of these in this thread, from the very person whose life is so empty he feels the need to waste everyone else's time by ruining their games.

Tarafından yazıldı joedtaxi, 10.06.2014 at 14:37

You don't have to leave to troll a game, what if someone joins as an OP nation (UN for example) and they wf everyone turn 1. Why should everyone have to stay for the first 5 and be farmed or face a ban ?

No. In such cases it is understood. Nearly everyone would leave, it would be pointless to stay.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 10.06.2014 at 22:12

Not that Im not a fan of this strike. Obviously I am.

No you're not. You cannot be. Because you are one of the trolls who would eventually get punished if this succeeds. Stop hiding behind the mask. The only reason you react like this is because you fear the consequences. Of course, it's natural. You are against this strike just like a thief is against video cameras. It's against your interest:

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 10.06.2014 at 22:12

Tik-Tok, Unleashed, all of you need to walk away from the front of your computer and take a visit outside for once in your lives. Maybe get a job or a friend to occupy your time and try doing something productive rather than get so caught up in a web browser game.

Really dude? :lol: . I'm typing this from work right now. Do you really believe you're making a point? LOL. I would say, take your own advice go out for once. Because you must have a really pathetic existence to join WW2 games and troll then on turn 1. Then you have the guts to come here and give us life lessons. . 14 yo child. Maybe YOU should re-evaluate yourself, and realize the irony of what a scum you really are Ooops, my bad, once again, I tell it like it is

Tarafından yazıldı Pinheiro, 10.06.2014 at 23:58

I just want to make clear that mods won't take any orders from other players, but we will enforce AW rules regarding game disrupting actions.

Nobody is ordering you to do anything. We just didn't see anything enforced. This troll is still here, and does his best to spite us. Despite the fact that he confessed that he did indeed ruin the game on purpose.

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:44

Cthulhu is right, unless the players admits to trolling, there's not much to be done - people have a legitimate reason to quit the game sometimes.

But he did admit, right in this thread. And when there is a legitimate reason and players have to leave turn 4-5 or whatever, it's not a problem. It's about the ones who do it on purpose, turn 1, and when it happens it's so obvious anyone can see it.

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 09.06.2014 at 16:01

Tarafından yazıldı Emperor Lelouch, 09.06.2014 at 15:58

I ruined 1 game, and u have no proof it was on purpose it was also about 12pm for me, and i never laughed openly.

Tarafından yazıldı Emperor Lelouch, 09.06.2014 at 15:58

I ruined 1 game

Tarafından yazıldı Emperor Lelouch, 09.06.2014 at 15:58

I ruined 1 game

Tarafından yazıldı Emperor Lelouch, 09.06.2014 at 15:58

I ruined 1 game

You really, cant be THIS stupid..... Id rephrase that if I were you. This isnt a clinical court procedure, mods dont have to play that way. You literally just signed a confession.

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 11.06.2014 at 02:50

Also, how the already current trolls can completely abuse this against players that they just simply don't like.

This is the reason why I was always against a solution like this. But now I see it as absolutely necessary.

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:53

Hmm. How many trolls are also accomplished map-makers, boasting popular maps and scenarios?

None.

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 11.06.2014 at 03:52

I did not orchestrate it. And my clan members know if clan chat is leaked! BAM! kicked! So please, don't point fingers, nor drag my innocent clan members into this. You can't make such accusations without proof. But I thought you SS everything?

I dont grass on my friends and companions. You brought this on yourself, from now on, leave our games be, play by the rules or you'll never play a decent scenario ever again.

Tarafından yazıldı Emperor Lelouch, 10.06.2014 at 23:23

Tarafından yazıldı Permamuted, 10.06.2014 at 22:44

Oh for the love of god, lelouch just apologise and stop trolling games you dont like, youve become the proverbial straw to this problem, and here you are in this thread making things worse. i support this strike of theirs, some stronger punishment should be inflicted on the assholes that join games that take time and patience to fill soley to troll and ruin them. it certainly wouldnt do any harm for some reevaluation to those rules.

and im dissappointed fock to see you here as part of the problem. dislike tiktok for his personal views or whatnot but too few mapmakers are capable of making a fun/interesting map with some level of balance or perfect imbalance. and tik is probably one of them best of them. These guys dedicate their time to making these maps for the rest of us. whether you appreciate this or not, it is perfectly within their rights to demand respect is given to the gameplay and players of these maps.

and its worth noting that those in this thread dismissive of this strike are mainly those who dont player scenarios/custom maps, are part of the problem for which this strike was started, or have personal issues with the mapmakers themselves.

Thing is i dont troll games. Tik has no proof of me ever trolling a game and by proof i mean screen shots visual proof not some opinions of people cause thats all they are opinions.

You admitted it. You challenged Tik-Tok to a duel saying if he wins then you'll say sorry. But if you are not guilty, then why are you sorry about? Lol, you're this stupid?

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:53

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 11.06.2014 at 02:50

You have to think of the consequences that comes with this, and how easily it can be used as a trolling mechanism. This will single handedly make some players with those legitimate reasons for leaving losing out on one of there favorite scenarios or map. Also, how the already current trolls can completely abuse this against players that they just simply don't like. I think this will cause more problems in the future then how many problems it can fix right now.

Hmm. How many trolls are also accomplished map-makers, boasting popular maps and scenarios?

They still need to get banned, equal treatment for the lot of them.

Tarafından yazıldı Mr_Own_U, 11.06.2014 at 02:50

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:44

Tik-Tok, your original post begins with "Negotiations failed. Its time to go on strike." - that seems strange to me, since I've never heard of this issue before and certainly didn't have any negotiations.
You should remember that Mods cannot resolve anything that requires coding, and apparently this issue cannot be fixed simply by moderation. Cthulhu is right, unless the players admits to trolling, there's not much to be done - people have a legitimate reason to quit the game sometimes.

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 10.06.2014 at 18:42

A list which allows map creators to prevents certain palyers from playing their maps/scenarios.

We have decided to create such a list. Hopefully it would help.

You have to think of the consequences that comes with this, and how easily it can be used as a trolling mechanism. This will single handedly make some players with those legitimate reasons for leaving losing out on one of there favorite scenarios or map. Also, how the already current trolls can completely abuse this against players that they just simply don't like. I think this will cause more problems in the future then how many problems it can fix right now.

Well there is this thing called MESSAGING a map creator, if they truly want to go on the map again, they'll have to redeem themselves with a pretty bulletproof excuse. As for the troll map makers, we simply propagandize against them.

Tarafından yazıldı Guest, 11.06.2014 at 04:24

Tarafından yazıldı Emperor Lelouch, 10.06.2014 at 23:23

Tarafından yazıldı Permamuted, 10.06.2014 at 22:44

Oh for the love of god, lelouch just apologise and stop trolling games you dont like, youve become the proverbial straw to this problem, and here you are in this thread making things worse. i support this strike of theirs, some stronger punishment should be inflicted on the assholes that join games that take time and patience to fill soley to troll and ruin them. it certainly wouldnt do any harm for some reevaluation to those rules.

and im dissappointed fock to see you here as part of the problem. dislike tiktok for his personal views or whatnot but too few mapmakers are capable of making a fun/interesting map with some level of balance or perfect imbalance. and tik is probably one of them best of them. These guys dedicate their time to making these maps for the rest of us. whether you appreciate this or not, it is perfectly within their rights to demand respect is given to the gameplay and players of these maps.

and its worth noting that those in this thread dismissive of this strike are mainly those who dont player scenarios/custom maps, are part of the problem for which this strike was started, or have personal issues with the mapmakers themselves.

Thing is i dont troll games. Tik has no proof of me ever trolling a game and by proof i mean screen shots visual proof not some opinions of people cause thats all they are opinions.

You admitted it. You challenged Tik-Tok to a duel saying if he wins then you'll say sorry. But if you are not guilty, then why are you sorry about? Lol, you're this stupid?

LOL. Nice one. If you applied this kind of logic to religion, you'd be free in less than two days.

...So you can do it afterall.


PS: sry for off topic

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:44

We have decided to create such a list. Hopefully it would help.

I am surprised nobody else quoted this. Awesome, thanks Ivan!

So the strike is a success? It is over?

Tarafından yazıldı Unleashed, 11.06.2014 at 03:52

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 10.06.2014 at 22:12

Not that Im not a fan of this strike. Obviously I am.

No you're not. You cannot be. Because you are one of the trolls who would eventually get punished if this succeeds. Stop hiding behind the mask. The only reason you react like this is because you fear the consequences. Of course, it's natural. You are against this strike just like a thief is against video cameras. It's against your interest:

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 10.06.2014 at 22:12

Tik-Tok, Unleashed, all of you need to walk away from the front of your computer and take a visit outside for once in your lives. Maybe get a job or a friend to occupy your time and try doing something productive rather than get so caught up in a web browser game.

Really dude? :lol: . I'm typing this from work right now. Do you really believe you're making a point? LOL. I would say, take your own advice go out for once. Because you must have a really pathetic existence to join WW2 games and troll then on turn 1. Then you have the guts to come here and give us life lessons. . 14 yo child. Maybe YOU should re-evaluate yourself, and realize the irony of what a scum you really are Ooops, my bad, once again, I tell it like it is

LOL. I am a fan of this strike because it means less people playing scenarios and more people looking for other games. I do not care for any other results this strike causes. "a pathetic existence to join WW2 games and troll then on turn 1" Ok unleashed, lets do the math here. I was in that game for 5 minutes max. You, on the other hand, sat in front of your computer for another 30-45 minutes (as you stated previously since you say that's how long they take to fill) and then played the actual game for another 1-3 hours. So, I spent 5 minutes while you spent 1-3 hours roleplaying a country during WW2 on a computer screen. I'm the pathetic one? And you act as if there wasn't a purpose behind that game. I intended to play the game throughout the entire game or until I died. I also saw numerous others bitching about trolls and leavers. These people who complained about other trolls and leavers are the same who go off and troll UNs (back when they were around) and troll RPs. Seemed like a bunch of hypocrites, so that's why I did it. Was it right? Probably not. Where their people in there that haven't trolled a thing in their life? Yes. They were simply caught in the crossfire. Even in this thread you act as if you have some divine right to play your WW2 without it being trolled, yet you and tik condemn 3v3 players for acting the same way. You and tik-tok and the others who took their maps down don't give two shits about anything else being trolled. You only care about your precious scenarios. Otherwise, adog and numerous others should be banned for all the RPs and UNs they have trolled in the past.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Tarafından yazıldı Unleashed, 11.06.2014 at 03:52

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 10.06.2014 at 22:12

Not that Im not a fan of this strike. Obviously I am.

No you're not. You cannot be. Because you are one of the trolls who would eventually get punished if this succeeds. Stop hiding behind the mask. The only reason you react like this is because you fear the consequences. Of course, it's natural. You are against this strike just like a thief is against video cameras. It's against your interest:

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 10.06.2014 at 22:12

Tik-Tok, Unleashed, all of you need to walk away from the front of your computer and take a visit outside for once in your lives. Maybe get a job or a friend to occupy your time and try doing something productive rather than get so caught up in a web browser game.

Really dude? :lol: . I'm typing this from work right now. Do you really believe you're making a point? LOL. I would say, take your own advice go out for once. Because you must have a really pathetic existence to join WW2 games and troll then on turn 1. Then you have the guts to come here and give us life lessons. . 14 yo child. Maybe YOU should re-evaluate yourself, and realize the irony of what a scum you really are Ooops, my bad, once again, I tell it like it is

LOL. I am a fan of this strike because it means less people playing scenarios and more people looking for other games. I do not care for any other results this strike causes. "a pathetic existence to join WW2 games and troll then on turn 1" Ok unleashed, lets do the math here. I was in that game for 5 minutes max. You, on the other hand, sat in front of your computer for another 30-45 minutes (as you stated previously since you say that's how long they take to fill) and then played the actual game for another 1-3 hours. So, I spent 5 minutes while you spent 1-3 hours roleplaying a country during WW2 on a computer screen. I'm the pathetic one? And you act as if there wasn't a purpose behind that game. I intended to play the game throughout the entire game or until I died. I also saw numerous others bitching about trolls and leavers. These people who complained about other trolls and leavers are the same who go off and troll UNs (back when they were around) and troll RPs. Seemed like a bunch of hypocrites, so that's why I did it. Was it right? Probably not. Where their people in there that haven't trolled a thing in their life? Yes. They were simply caught in the crossfire. Even in this thread you act as if you have some divine right to play your WW2 without it being trolled, yet you and tik condemn 3v3 players for acting the same way. You and tik-tok and the others who took their maps down don't give two shits about anything else being trolled. You only care about your precious scenarios. Otherwise, adog and numerous others should be banned for all the RPs and UNs they have trolled in the past.

I agree with fock, first of all, unleashed when u or any other WWII lover (fag) trolls a UN or RP, oh it's fine but when someone trolls ur faggy WWII u must cry on forums and dedicate threads to it? Hypocrite much? (Sorry for copying a couple of stuff u said fock)

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Ok unleashed, lets do the math here. I was in that game for 5 minutes max. You, on the other hand, sat in front of your computer for another 30-45 minutes (as you stated previously since you say that's how long they take to fill) and then played the actual game for another 1-3 hours. So, I spent 5 minutes while you spent 1-3 hours roleplaying a country during WW2 on a computer screen. I'm the pathetic one?

So you just spent the other 1-3 hours trolling other games or doing whatever in AW. Still the same amount of time, except I really enjoyed myself and the struggle of playing germany which exalts my senses everytime. So to conclude, yes, you are the pathetic one.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Even in this thread you act as if you have some divine right to play your WW2 without it being trolled

Of course I have that right. The current rules give me that right, although they should be more clear.
You're doing a good job of shooting yourself in the foot, keep going. Tell us more about how you troll games.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

I intended to play the game throughout the entire game or until I died. I also saw numerous others bitching about trolls and leavers. These people who complained about other trolls and leavers are the same who go off and troll UNs (back when they were around) and troll RPs. Seemed like a bunch of hypocrites, so that's why I did it. Was it right? Probably not.

It's ok. Calm down. Stop trying to explain yourself. I can promise you one thing: You will never play a quality WW2 ever again.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

yet you and tik condemn 3v3 players for acting the same way. You and tik-tok and the others who took their maps down don't give two shits about anything else being trolled. You only care about your precious scenarios. Otherwise, adog and numerous others should be banned for all the RPs and UNs they have trolled in the past.

I never, ever said anything negative about 3v3 players. You are hallucinating, as usual. I am 3v3 player myself. Once again, you fail miserably in your responses. But that's to be expected from a troll like you. Done.

Tarafından yazıldı clovis1122, 11.06.2014 at 10:52

Tarafından yazıldı Emperor Lelouch, 09.06.2014 at 15:46

Tarafından yazıldı Guerrilla, 09.06.2014 at 15:42

This is why no one likes evoL

Ur right thats why we have so many skilled clan mates and have lots of applications each day.

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My regards to evoL leader, Mr_Own_U but THIS IS SO DAMM FUNNY XD XD XD XD XD.

Mou doesn't even realize how his idiot member keeps embarassing himself and how this reflects badly on his coaliton by tolerating this behaviour.

Tarafından yazıldı Unleashed, 11.06.2014 at 10:55

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Ok unleashed, lets do the math here. I was in that game for 5 minutes max. You, on the other hand, sat in front of your computer for another 30-45 minutes (as you stated previously since you say that's how long they take to fill) and then played the actual game for another 1-3 hours. So, I spent 5 minutes while you spent 1-3 hours roleplaying a country during WW2 on a computer screen. I'm the pathetic one?

So you just spent the other 1-3 hours trolling other games or doing whatever in AW. Still the same amount of time, except I really enjoyed myself and the struggle of playing germany which exalts my senses everytime. So to conclude, yes, you are the pathetic one.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Even in this thread you act as if you have some divine right to play your WW2 without it being trolled

Of course I have that right. The current rules give me that right, although they should be more clear.
You're doing a good job of shooting yourself in the foot, keep going. Tell us more about how you troll games.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

I intended to play the game throughout the entire game or until I died. I also saw numerous others bitching about trolls and leavers. These people who complained about other trolls and leavers are the same who go off and troll UNs (back when they were around) and troll RPs. Seemed like a bunch of hypocrites, so that's why I did it. Was it right? Probably not.

It's ok. Calm down. Stop trying to explain yourself. I can promise you one thing: You will never play a quality WW2 ever again.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

yet you and tik condemn 3v3 players for acting the same way. You and tik-tok and the others who took their maps down don't give two shits about anything else being trolled. You only care about your precious scenarios. Otherwise, adog and numerous others should be banned for all the RPs and UNs they have trolled in the past.

I never, ever said anything negative about 3v3 players. You are hallucinating, as usual. I am 3v3 player myself. Once again, you fail miserably in your responses. But that's to be expected from a troll like you. Done.

You are under the assumption that 100% of my time is devoted to trolling. That WW2 is the only game I have trolled since the days of UN back when I was a rank 5 and 6. My time is spent in 3v3s and CWs. If I was a troll who left every single game first turn, my leaver percentage on my profile would be somewhere between 80-100%, which it isn't. You are making assumptions based off of one game. Your entire post here is invalid due to this fact since your entire goal is trying to make me out to be a troll.

There was no flame war. I just decided it was time to tear him a new asshole (about 4th or 5th), and I did. That's why I said done. Besides, it was on-topic. Please, continue with the topic. Do not be distrubed by this.

Is not flaming, it's just hard to speak to somebody who is handicapped in a mental hospital.

Tarafından yazıldı Aetius, 11.06.2014 at 10:27

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:44

We have decided to create such a list. Hopefully it would help.

I am surprised nobody else quoted this. Awesome, thanks Ivan!

So the strike is a success? It is over?

Personally, I can't wait for it. Finally, we will be able to play without distractions and worries.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 11:05

Tarafından yazıldı Unleashed, 11.06.2014 at 10:55

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Ok unleashed, lets do the math here. I was in that game for 5 minutes max. You, on the other hand, sat in front of your computer for another 30-45 minutes (as you stated previously since you say that's how long they take to fill) and then played the actual game for another 1-3 hours. So, I spent 5 minutes while you spent 1-3 hours roleplaying a country during WW2 on a computer screen. I'm the pathetic one?

So you just spent the other 1-3 hours trolling other games or doing whatever in AW. Still the same amount of time, except I really enjoyed myself and the struggle of playing germany which exalts my senses everytime. So to conclude, yes, you are the pathetic one.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Even in this thread you act as if you have some divine right to play your WW2 without it being trolled

Of course I have that right. The current rules give me that right, although they should be more clear.
You're doing a good job of shooting yourself in the foot, keep going. Tell us more about how you troll games.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

I intended to play the game throughout the entire game or until I died. I also saw numerous others bitching about trolls and leavers. These people who complained about other trolls and leavers are the same who go off and troll UNs (back when they were around) and troll RPs. Seemed like a bunch of hypocrites, so that's why I did it. Was it right? Probably not.

It's ok. Calm down. Stop trying to explain yourself. I can promise you one thing: You will never play a quality WW2 ever again.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

yet you and tik condemn 3v3 players for acting the same way. You and tik-tok and the others who took their maps down don't give two shits about anything else being trolled. You only care about your precious scenarios. Otherwise, adog and numerous others should be banned for all the RPs and UNs they have trolled in the past.

I never, ever said anything negative about 3v3 players. You are hallucinating, as usual. I am 3v3 player myself. Once again, you fail miserably in your responses. But that's to be expected from a troll like you. Done.

You are under the assumption that 100% of my time is devoted to trolling. That WW2 is the only game I have trolled since the days of UN back when I was a rank 5 and 6. My time is spent in 3v3s and CWs. If I was a troll who left every single game first turn, my leaver percentage on my profile would be somewhere between 80-100%, which it isn't. You are making assumptions based off of one game. Your entire post here is invalid due to this fact since your entire goal is trying to make me out to be a troll.

The point is that it is hypocritical that you point out OUR lack of social life and boast yours, when you actually take time to troll WWIIs. You used to troll UN games all the time and your abandonment rate is above 50%.

Considering you joined well over a year after I did and you have 300 more games played than I do, I think who wastes more time in game is clear now?

But no, what am I talking about? This wasn't directed at me, it was directed at Unleashed. Unleashed has averaged 98 games per month while you have averaged 89 games per month. Not that big of a difference there. Tik-Tok, however, has averaged 69 games per month, significantly lower.

You can argue that the people involved in this strike have too much time on their hands and should do something better with their time, but the reality is, your social life isnt exactly a great competition to that of Unleashed and Tik-Tok.

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:44

Tik-Tok, your original post begins with "Negotiations failed. Its time to go on strike." - that seems strange to me, since I've never heard of this issue before and certainly didn't have any negotiations.
You should remember that Mods cannot resolve anything that requires coding, and apparently this issue cannot be fixed simply by moderation. Cthulhu is right, unless the players admits to trolling, there's not much to be done - people have a legitimate reason to quit the game sometimes.

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 10.06.2014 at 18:42

A list which allows map creators to prevents certain palyers from playing their maps/scenarios.

We have decided to create such a list. Hopefully it would help.

Mind telling us how you are going to implement this. Will the map makers alone be able to prevent certain players from playing the game ? Or will they need approval of Mods as well.
I support your intentions but I am afraid it might be intentionally used to prevent certain players from playing the game. You will have to ensure that the system ultimately doesn't get
misused in any manner.

Tarafından yazıldı KYBL, 11.06.2014 at 11:57

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 11:05

Tarafından yazıldı Unleashed, 11.06.2014 at 10:55

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Ok unleashed, lets do the math here. I was in that game for 5 minutes max. You, on the other hand, sat in front of your computer for another 30-45 minutes (as you stated previously since you say that's how long they take to fill) and then played the actual game for another 1-3 hours. So, I spent 5 minutes while you spent 1-3 hours roleplaying a country during WW2 on a computer screen. I'm the pathetic one?

So you just spent the other 1-3 hours trolling other games or doing whatever in AW. Still the same amount of time, except I really enjoyed myself and the struggle of playing germany which exalts my senses everytime. So to conclude, yes, you are the pathetic one.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Even in this thread you act as if you have some divine right to play your WW2 without it being trolled

Of course I have that right. The current rules give me that right, although they should be more clear.
You're doing a good job of shooting yourself in the foot, keep going. Tell us more about how you troll games.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

I intended to play the game throughout the entire game or until I died. I also saw numerous others bitching about trolls and leavers. These people who complained about other trolls and leavers are the same who go off and troll UNs (back when they were around) and troll RPs. Seemed like a bunch of hypocrites, so that's why I did it. Was it right? Probably not.

It's ok. Calm down. Stop trying to explain yourself. I can promise you one thing: You will never play a quality WW2 ever again.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

yet you and tik condemn 3v3 players for acting the same way. You and tik-tok and the others who took their maps down don't give two shits about anything else being trolled. You only care about your precious scenarios. Otherwise, adog and numerous others should be banned for all the RPs and UNs they have trolled in the past.

I never, ever said anything negative about 3v3 players. You are hallucinating, as usual. I am 3v3 player myself. Once again, you fail miserably in your responses. But that's to be expected from a troll like you. Done.

You are under the assumption that 100% of my time is devoted to trolling. That WW2 is the only game I have trolled since the days of UN back when I was a rank 5 and 6. My time is spent in 3v3s and CWs. If I was a troll who left every single game first turn, my leaver percentage on my profile would be somewhere between 80-100%, which it isn't. You are making assumptions based off of one game. Your entire post here is invalid due to this fact since your entire goal is trying to make me out to be a troll.

The point is that it is hypocritical that you point out OUR lack of social life and boast yours, when you actually take time to troll WWIIs. You used to troll UN games all the time and your abandonment rate is above 50%.

Considering you joined well over a year after I did and you have 300 more games played than I do, I think who wastes more time in game is clear now?

But no, what am I talking about? This wasn't directed at me, it was directed at Unleashed. Unleashed has averaged 98 games per month while you have averaged 89 games per month. Not that big of a difference there. Tik-Tok, however, has averaged 69 games per month, significantly lower.

You can argue that the people involved in this strike have too much time on their hands and should do something better with their time, but the reality is, your social life isnt exactly a great competition to that of Unleashed and Tik-Tok.

And who used to troll those UN games with me? You did. Hell, that's why you started talking to me in the first place because we both would do it at the same time. Games played is such an inaccurate measurement tool to see how long we play. I average about 8-10 turns played per game and about 4-6 turns when I play 5k per game. When you look at Unleashed's profile you see the same statistics when he plays 3v3s and about double that when he plays scenarios. Also, keep in mind that WW2 games are 5 minutes, and most 3v3s and CWs are played in 4 min (unless somebody who needs more time due to lag or something) and most 5ks and some duels even are played in 2 min. Tik tok has mutliple games that last 15+ turns some even in the 40s. If you want to measure how long I play and compare it to yourself, tik-tok and unleashed, take the turns played in WW2/RP games and multiple the turns by 5 since every turn is 5 minutes and take all turns played in 3v3s and cws and multiply it by 4 since every turn is 4 minutes. But if you did that, it prove your theory false and would only support my argument.

Tarafından yazıldı minusSeven, 11.06.2014 at 11:59

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:44

Tik-Tok, your original post begins with "Negotiations failed. Its time to go on strike." - that seems strange to me, since I've never heard of this issue before and certainly didn't have any negotiations.
You should remember that Mods cannot resolve anything that requires coding, and apparently this issue cannot be fixed simply by moderation. Cthulhu is right, unless the players admits to trolling, there's not much to be done - people have a legitimate reason to quit the game sometimes.

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 10.06.2014 at 18:42

A list which allows map creators to prevents certain palyers from playing their maps/scenarios.

We have decided to create such a list. Hopefully it would help.

Mind telling us how you are going to implement this. Will the map makers alone be able to prevent certain players from playing the game ? Or will they need approval of Mods as well.
I support your intentions but I am afraid it might be intentionally used to prevent certain players from playing the game. You will have to ensure that the system ultimately doesn't get
misused in any manner.

Simple. My suggestion is this: A screenshot would be taken right in the moment when the trolling happened (like the one I took of fockmeard, which is an obvious case, yet cthulhu chose to ignore it), and it would not be posted publicly (cause I don't think a thread dedicated exclusively to that is allowed). Instead it would just be showed to a mod by the map owner. Then he can add that player to the list and prevent him from further ruining it and wasting everyone's time.

If anyone else has better ideas, feel free to add.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 12:06

Tarafından yazıldı KYBL, 11.06.2014 at 11:57

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 11:05

Tarafından yazıldı Unleashed, 11.06.2014 at 10:55

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Ok unleashed, lets do the math here. I was in that game for 5 minutes max. You, on the other hand, sat in front of your computer for another 30-45 minutes (as you stated previously since you say that's how long they take to fill) and then played the actual game for another 1-3 hours. So, I spent 5 minutes while you spent 1-3 hours roleplaying a country during WW2 on a computer screen. I'm the pathetic one?

So you just spent the other 1-3 hours trolling other games or doing whatever in AW. Still the same amount of time, except I really enjoyed myself and the struggle of playing germany which exalts my senses everytime. So to conclude, yes, you are the pathetic one.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

Even in this thread you act as if you have some divine right to play your WW2 without it being trolled

Of course I have that right. The current rules give me that right, although they should be more clear.
You're doing a good job of shooting yourself in the foot, keep going. Tell us more about how you troll games.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

I intended to play the game throughout the entire game or until I died. I also saw numerous others bitching about trolls and leavers. These people who complained about other trolls and leavers are the same who go off and troll UNs (back when they were around) and troll RPs. Seemed like a bunch of hypocrites, so that's why I did it. Was it right? Probably not.

It's ok. Calm down. Stop trying to explain yourself. I can promise you one thing: You will never play a quality WW2 ever again.

Tarafından yazıldı Fockmeeard, 11.06.2014 at 10:46

yet you and tik condemn 3v3 players for acting the same way. You and tik-tok and the others who took their maps down don't give two shits about anything else being trolled. You only care about your precious scenarios. Otherwise, adog and numerous others should be banned for all the RPs and UNs they have trolled in the past.

I never, ever said anything negative about 3v3 players. You are hallucinating, as usual. I am 3v3 player myself. Once again, you fail miserably in your responses. But that's to be expected from a troll like you. Done.

You are under the assumption that 100% of my time is devoted to trolling. That WW2 is the only game I have trolled since the days of UN back when I was a rank 5 and 6. My time is spent in 3v3s and CWs. If I was a troll who left every single game first turn, my leaver percentage on my profile would be somewhere between 80-100%, which it isn't. You are making assumptions based off of one game. Your entire post here is invalid due to this fact since your entire goal is trying to make me out to be a troll.

The point is that it is hypocritical that you point out OUR lack of social life and boast yours, when you actually take time to troll WWIIs. You used to troll UN games all the time and your abandonment rate is above 50%.

Considering you joined well over a year after I did and you have 300 more games played than I do, I think who wastes more time in game is clear now?

But no, what am I talking about? This wasn't directed at me, it was directed at Unleashed. Unleashed has averaged 98 games per month while you have averaged 89 games per month. Not that big of a difference there. Tik-Tok, however, has averaged 69 games per month, significantly lower.

You can argue that the people involved in this strike have too much time on their hands and should do something better with their time, but the reality is, your social life isnt exactly a great competition to that of Unleashed and Tik-Tok.

And who used to troll those UN games with me? You did. Hell, that's why you started talking to me in the first place because we both would do it at the same time. Games played is such an inaccurate measurement tool to see how long we play. I average about 8-10 turns played per game and about 4-6 turns when I play 5k per game. When you look at Unleashed's profile you see the same statistics when he plays 3v3s and about double that when he plays scenarios. Also, keep in mind that WW2 games are 5 minutes, and most 3v3s and CWs are played in 4 min (unless somebody who needs more time due to lag or something) and most 5ks and some duels even are played in 2 min. Tik tok has mutliple games that last 15+ turns some even in the 40s. If you want to measure how long I play and compare it to yourself, tik-tok and unleashed, take the turns played in WW2/RP games and multiple the turns by 5 since every turn is 5 minutes and take all turns played in 3v3s and cws and multiply it by 4 since every turn is 4 minutes. But if you did that, it prove your theory false and would only support my argument.

That doesn't include the countless games that have been trolled by you or some other player in the WWII games. This thread was made over games being trolled first turn, which happened 3 or 4 times in one day. When you take that into account, you will find that they play way less than you think.

I may have only began talking to you in the first place over trolling UN games, but you did that a lot more than I did. Way more times than I did. That is probably a big reason why you have an average that is about 2.5 time the amount of games I played.

Unleashed and Tik Tok aren't the ones who waste their time going around and trolling games like you do and did. I may have done it, but never to the extent that you did and I moreso went rogue in UN rather than left first turn and you know that for a fact.

Tarafından yazıldı Unleashed, 11.06.2014 at 12:07

Tarafından yazıldı minusSeven, 11.06.2014 at 11:59

Tarafından yazıldı Ivan, 11.06.2014 at 02:44

Tik-Tok, your original post begins with "Negotiations failed. Its time to go on strike." - that seems strange to me, since I've never heard of this issue before and certainly didn't have any negotiations.
You should remember that Mods cannot resolve anything that requires coding, and apparently this issue cannot be fixed simply by moderation. Cthulhu is right, unless the players admits to trolling, there's not much to be done - people have a legitimate reason to quit the game sometimes.

Tarafından yazıldı Tik-Tok, 10.06.2014 at 18:42

A list which allows map creators to prevents certain palyers from playing their maps/scenarios.

We have decided to create such a list. Hopefully it would help.

Mind telling us how you are going to implement this. Will the map makers alone be able to prevent certain players from playing the game ? Or will they need approval of Mods as well.
I support your intentions but I am afraid it might be intentionally used to prevent certain players from playing the game. You will have to ensure that the system ultimately doesn't get
misused in any manner.

Simple. My suggestion is this: A screenshot would be taken right in the moment when the trolling happened (like the one I took of fockmeard, which is an obvious case, yet cthulhu chose to ignore it), and it would not be posted publicly (cause I don't think a thread dedicated exclusively to that is allowed). Instead it would just be showed to a mod by the map owner. Then he can add that player to the list and prevent him from further ruining it and wasting everyone's time.

If anyone else has better ideas, feel free to add.

Give map makers more autonomy to add players to the ban list themselves. We don't need a bureaucratic system for mods to do it themselves.

Tarafından yazıldı KYBL, 11.06.2014 at 12:19

Give map makers more autonomy to add players to the ban list themselves. We don't need a bureaucratic system for mods to do it themselves.

You know what. Forget what I said, I like this better

Tarafından yazıldı KYBL, 11.06.2014 at 12:17

That doesn't include the countless games that have been trolled by you or some other player in the WWII games. This thread was made over games being trolled first turn, which happened 3 or 4 times in one day. When you take that into account, you will find that they play way less than you think.

I may have only began talking to you in the first place over trolling UN games, but you did that a lot more than I did. Way more times than I did. That is probably a big reason why you have an average that is about 2.5 time the amount of games I played.

Unleashed and Tik Tok aren't the ones who waste their time going around and trolling games like you do and did. I may have done it, but never to the extent that you did and I moreso went rogue in UN rather than left first turn and you know that for a fact.

'do and did' The screenshot taken by Unleashed was taken well over a month ago. What evidence do you have to support that I still do it? I haven't touched an RP and that WW2 was the only one I have trolled. If I trolled more, there would be a lot more screenshots of me doing it. Not to mention the people who play these games that get ruined love to let everybody know who did by spamming the lobby and globals like they did with me back when I trolled UN. I love how you take the tactic 'You trolled a lot of games therefore you waste more time on here' because I completely dismantled your previous argument.

Regardless of how much you trolled, you were still a troll. No matter how you try to spin it, we both have a history of ruining UNs. Period.

Also, who was the person who boasted that you and your friends on your website were able to completely shut down another website because you trolled it so hard? You. I admit though I gave you another site to troll, but I did not spend my time orchestrating it nor did I spend my time participating in it.