European Union

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 15.12.2017 at 17:00

Tarafından yazıldı Wheelo, 15.12.2017 at 12:17

I have to interfere here; Acquiesce have right about EU not solving debt, and i don't agree with you on refugee issue because Germany INVITED them, they did not only accept them. And just because Germany need them, doesn't mean other EU members want them (not to mention 'refugee quota' Germany is not pushing after they saw complain and distress among their citizens, quota which says other EU states have to accept refugees that ENTERED Germany after being INVITED)

Second, EU is redundant for trade, some eastern europea and balkan countries are still not EU and they successfully trade among themselves. EU just fooled you (most of us) that we (the world) need them to facilitate trade, while in reality we do that successfully for the last 70 years. Sure we have to sign some more paperwork but that does not discourage small business (as proven 40-50 years ago in the same territories where is now EU).

And look at the economical difference between the two. The balkans are piss poor while the west is rich.

Tarafından yazıldı Black Swans, 15.12.2017 at 04:30

I am pro eu
anti Bosnia getting in eu.
They don't want us there, why even bother and ffs we fought for independence and paid such hefty price, do we shit on our independence by GIVING it to Germans. Oh and yeah, Germany and France really aren't pro-Bosnia, neither is UK, but they love to fuck over Russia

Enough with admitting poor countries to EU and send them money, hence why it's not getting in aswell xd

Tarafından yazıldı Acquiesce, 14.12.2017 at 22:08

Gladly. Germany is a founding member and indisputably the engine behind the EU and the eurozone. I think Kissinger said something like, "poor Germany, too big for Europe, too small for the world". The country is in this awkward position where it can't (and doesn't really want to) exercise military strength because of WWII, so it projects power through economic dominance and EU bureaucracy. There's no question the Germans excel economically; besides having the largest population and GDP in Europe they enjoy a stable budget, low unemployment, and high exports. The French voice is minimal these days. This isn't to say the Germans are bad, they just pursue their own self-interest, which naturally differs from say Greece or Spain's. Just being in the eurozone means surrendering all monetary policy to a foreign ECB, based in Frankfurt. And that's not even mentioning all the EU rules and regulations. Sovereignty is a zero-sum game, every additional decision made in Brussels is one less made in by your own ELECTED representatives.

Couldn't agree more, though the EU has European Parliamentary Elections to mitigate that, yet we share the same position I'm afraid.

I consider myself Anti-EU as it sits and what it aims (A Federation of European Countries, aka United States of Europe, as defended by Churchill in Fulton in 1946, where UK would be left out). The EU is a bloc doomed to fail for a lot of reasons, unless they are handled.

First of all, it's undemocratic and distant from European Citizens. European Citizens get to elect the European Parliament but that's it, there's no other aspect of decisions the common folk can take. Though I think if they made elections for the European Commission it would federalize it even more and make the EC elections like the elections for the US, where candidates show up in key large states and shit on others. However, it is undemocratic, and relies on member-states governments proceed in the national interest and position key countrymen of theirs in key positions of the Union (Notice how Portugal managed to elect a Socialist Minister of Finances from an interventioned country as head of the Eurogroup).

Second of all, and as mentioned, it'd distant from the citizenry, european citizens don't feel the slight proximity with the European Union structure. It's as if they don't exist and they only exist in the form of community funds (money), regulations and benefits when visiting other countries (Being a citizen from a EU member state, travelling to another Member state is literally heaven, we can be protected in our rights and be assisted medically for example in any EU member state as if we were in our own country, and I personally think that's one of the best things the EU can offer, me having to resort to medical aid in Italy in August and I was treated as a citizen of theirs (hell, even better and faster than in my own country)).

Third of all, they serve Germany. The EU is basically a Germanic Confederation, Germany, being the prevalent nation, heavily influences the EU. However, that influence within the EU is mitigated. It's there but doesn't mean decisively as one might think. I think the problem here is the Government itself and the personality of the members of it. Merkel and her former minister of finances, Schauble, are personality-strong and imposed their will making use of the influence Germany has. However, in my opinion, that Influence in the EU will be heavily noted or imposed depending on the sitting Government and their attitude towards it.

Fourth of all, the EU is broken by within, the ammount of bureaucracy, the ammount of strict-regulations that only compresses the development of economic activities and really ani activity in general is insane and demotivates people and even states from going lengths for the pursue of their own interest.

Fift of all, EU can't settle for a decisive decision towards the Migrant Crisis. The Crisis has exposed how the Principle of Solidarity of the EU is a scam and it's not taken seriously by all the countries (Hungary especially, whose leader is an ideological-hypocrite lol). The Crisis doesn't necessary mean the European continent will suffer a deculturalization and change of culture. That change of culture is due to Globalization in general and over-liberalisation of society Governments have made in the name of political correctness. It's not gonna be a couple million arabs that will deculturalize Europe, it's an ongoing process in some areas due to Governments incompetency.

Sixth of all and for me the most important, is the fact the EU as a Supranational Organization represses National Sovereign of a country. As a Student of Law, I'll have to study European Union Law, but in Constitutional Law (my favourite subject in Uni haha) we study the supranational organizations "compression" of sovereignty of member-states. Basically Member-States alienate small parts of their Sovereignty like currency, borders (so important! and that we alienated in the name of solidarity, peace and tranquility, shame it had to be done that way) in a physical way and even matters concerning some aspects of foreign policy, like sanctions and now military defense). From all the aspects of Sovereignty that's repressed by the EU we have plenty, like the currency, borders, even trade regulations and even migration to a certain extent but the most important and critical one at the moment is Military and the military defense. My University is most of all pretty anti-european union but pro-europe (which is what I am), and (this is a personal experience haha) and my 1st Exam of Constitutional Law had us assess the Constitutionality of a revision of the Portuguese Constitution to allow the Armed Forces to serve European defense purposes and its command to be delivered to European HQ's. The answer is simple and quite firm. According to Portuguese Constitution and most other constitutions in Europe (depending on their classification whether they're programatic, flexible, rigid, utilitarian etc) establish the Defense of the Fatherland as a duty of the citizens (our Const. does that) and establishes the Armed Forces as serving the People and the Nation and not any foreign interest combined with the fact (and stated by Article 2 of the Constitution of the Portuguese Republic) that the National Sovereignty is absolute and indivisible. And in this matter about collective military defense countries are not going to giveup their sovereignty, with my country for example veto'ing any entrance in an organization that subjugates Army commands to a European HQ, others are wanting to clarify a NATO-Like European Collective defense bloc, which seems reasonable enough tbh.





Basically, I'm a very small minority in my country, being anti-eu. I'm pro-europe. I believe in the greatness of the European Continent culturally, geographically, politically, economically and historically. Europe used to be the center of the world and must retain that status as it is and was the center of progress and superiority related to other regions of the world. We Europeans have the know-how to be great and to lead, but we're wasting it on a inefficient organization that does little besides inducing strong economic growth between member-states with no trade regulations and tariffs and what not and preventing France and Germany and other former antagonistic countries from going at each other. Europe is great, the European Union, not so much and it's our duty as citizens of Member-States of the EU (most of us) to protect our Country and our National Sovereignty and Pride and put it in front of EU and an interest that is everything but national and personal.

All you Anti-EU fags, consider the situation that would be in Europe without EU. Could you study in Italy if you were German? Could you go to work in Germany if you were spanish? Could you buy any country products on same price as you do now because of free trade policies? Could you have peace for 60years?

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 15.12.2017 at 18:56

All you Anti-EU fags, consider the situation that would be in Europe without EU. Could you study in Italy if you were German? Could you go to work in Germany if you were spanish? Could you buy any country products on same price as you do now because of free trade policies? Could you have peace for 60years?

Did you read what I said? Cuz I didn't question that, I questioned the structure of the organization xd

Tarafından yazıldı Wheelo, 15.12.2017 at 12:17

That's the same anti-German propaganda that most Americans believe. America wants to be able to control European countries directly, like they do with every other region in the world. The EU as a federal body stops that.
Now lets look at some facts. Germany alone contributed 22 Billion to the EU national budget, more than any other country. In fact, Germany alone - Europe's largest economy - paid more than the 19 lowest-paying member states combined.
It has also taken in the most amount of refugees out of all the EU member states. The EU has benefited every country that has joined it so far - except Greece. Greece is the outlier. The most benefited country being Ireland.This is not a "post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy". These are facts.

The EU does what the League of Nations could not. I believe the third variable is Russia. Europe knows what will happen if it fights with each other, Russia will get involved and this time they may go further than Berlin.

You've conveniently left out the most important issue; trade. There is free trade between all EU member states making business possible for small business owners, aswell as attracting multinationals. Not to mention the benefits as an EU student, graduate, tourist, patient, consumer and farmer. Oh, and it's also ensured democracy across Europe for the past 60 years!

There's so much wrong in this reply, I guess I'll start with this anti-German charge. What a load of bollocks. Most Americans have no opinion or a positive view of the EU. As it happens Euroscepticism is an almost entirely European phenomenon because it is Europeans that suffer from this rotten institution, not Americans. I challenge you to provide evidence to the contrary.

Your "facts" amount to restating what we already know; of course Germany contributes the most to the EU budget, it's by far the largest economy and has the most to lose from a weaker EU. It's not a >>>national<<< budget by the way. I guess this was a wishful freudian slip on your part. Thankfully we don't have a federal Europe just yet. You seem to think Merkel inviting millions of third world migrants to her country without considering the consequences is some kind of noble act, I consider that an absolute failure of statesmanship. One that wouldn't be so bad if not for The Schengen Area which has effectively abolished European borders, another EU pet project.

On trade you speak as if it didn't exist prior to the EU. Besides there being no reason free trade can't exist without EU membership, you have to consider the globalization costs as well as the benefits. For every well off banker who gets to visit Barcelona without going through customs, I can show you a small business owner driven to bankruptcy by international competition. You didn't even bother addressing the fact that EU members have no ability to conduct monetary policy, leaving several with unnecessarily high unemployment and low GDP growth after the recession. You didn't even bother considering that people should be governed by representatives who are close and easily held accountable.

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 15.12.2017 at 18:56

Could you study in Italy if you were German?

Yes, I studied in Greece and I'm American. Greece and the United States are completely sovereign nations.

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 15.12.2017 at 18:56

Could you go to work in Germany if you were spanish?

Yes, my American aunt works in Abu Dhabi. The two are completely sovereign nations.

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 15.12.2017 at 18:56

Could you buy any country products on same price as you do now because of free trade policies?

Yes, if one country inflates the price another enters the industry. It's called the free market.

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 15.12.2017 at 18:56

Could you have peace for 60years?

Yes, Europe has been peaceful the last 60 years for reasons that have nothing to do with the EU.

Tarafından yazıldı Acquiesce, 15.12.2017 at 21:05

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 15.12.2017 at 18:56

Could you study in Italy if you were German?

Yes, I studied in Greece and I'm American. Greece and the United States are completely sovereign nations.

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 15.12.2017 at 18:56

Could you go to work in Germany if you were spanish?

Yes, my American aunt works in Abu Dhabi. The two are completely sovereign nations.

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 15.12.2017 at 18:56

Could you buy any country products on same price as you do now because of free trade policies?

Yes, if one country inflates the price another enters the industry. It's called the free market.

Tarafından yazıldı Oleg, 15.12.2017 at 18:56

Could you have peace for 60years?

Yes, Europe has been peaceful the last 60 years for reasons that have nothing to do with the EU.

American guy speaks about EU... khm...

Tarafından yazıldı Wheelo, 15.12.2017 at 17:28

And look at the economical difference between the two. The balkans are piss poor while the west is rich.

But you know why it is like that (thing that create forum flame wars). West attacked Balkan and made it poor, sure balkan was not 'fully' rich before that but it way better than third world and really close to western standards and even nearly joined EU in 1990, so if that happened, that mean today after 25 years they would have even more developed economy and be truly 'western' rich country (if we dont add german meddling in equation).

Slovenia was not harmed by the war (mostly), but collapse of Yugoslavia hit it, still they managed to become developed country
Croatia was very damaged in the war when Yugoslavia collapsed and thats why still not developed
Bosnia was fucked up damaged in the war when Yugoslavia collapsed and thats why still poor
Serbia was hit by terrorism from albanians, sanctioned by EU, invaded by USA when Yugoslavia collapsed, so still not developed and poor
Macedonia is half albanian when Yugoslavia collapsed, so still poor.

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But let me give you another perspective: Eastern Europe have everything West have = running water, electricity, power stations, dams, tunnels, bases, bridges, appartment blocks, iphones/computers in stores, markets, agriculture production and some of them even heavy industrial product, then working schools, hospitals, working courts and prison system. Not even the salary ratio is that big if we calculate PPP, because for €200 in east eu you can buy same amount of stuff as with €2000 in the west eu [aproximate average monthly wage], things are cheaper because of capitalism which shape itself to fit the local market [no demand if product is expensive and no supply if no demand]. Not to mention that both sides have outragous amount of debt, so, same there as well.

The difference is created when easterners go westward, work and claim welfare then spend east, that gives them ALOT of purchasing power in their homeland.

So the only difference between West and East EU is that things all these things work LITTLE better in the West, nothing more. Which brings again the question what's EU for if both sides are close more or less and successfully had trade way before EU was created?

Alıntı yap:

American guy speaks about EU... khm...

American or not just because he wasn't born in Europe doesn't invalidate his points, unless they are debunked by some greater argument they are completely justified. I don't see why the arguments he made are invalid just because of his nationality. That's like if I tried to blatantly state that you Europeans cannot try to critique the government here in the USA since you are not American, it's a completely broken argument. Whether or not we live there the issues of Europe inadvertently affects us Americans too since a lot of European nations are major allies.

Don't worry guys when your done fucking up europe again the USA will save you from whatever tyrant your failed policies create, just like always.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 16.12.2017 at 13:59

Tarafından yazıldı Wheelo, 15.12.2017 at 17:28

And look at the economical difference between the two. The balkans are piss poor while the west is rich.

But you know why it is like that (thing that create forum flame wars). West attacked Balkan and made it poor, sure balkan was not 'fully' rich before that but it way better than third world and really close to western standards and even nearly joined EU in 1990, so if that happened, that mean today after 25 years they would have even more developed economy and be truly 'western' rich country (if we dont add german meddling in equation).

Slovenia was not harmed by the war (mostly), but collapse of Yugoslavia hit it, still they managed to become developed country
Croatia was very damaged in the war when Yugoslavia collapsed and thats why still not developed
Bosnia was fucked up damaged in the war when Yugoslavia collapsed and thats why still poor
Serbia was hit by terrorism from albanians, sanctioned by EU, invaded by USA when Yugoslavia collapsed, so still not developed and poor
Macedonia is half albanian when Yugoslavia collapsed, so still poor.

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Your math is wrong real number of their tribe is 15 %-20% thats not half

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 18.12.2017 at 13:26

Your math is wrong real number of their tribe is 15 %-20% thats not half

Hyperbole, but not far from realism because they statistically have more children than Macedonians so they will reach and surpass the natives in the near future.

Not to mention illegal immigration from Albania to Western Macedonia because Macedonian police and administration have no control of that area. Even you know that when police, teachers, construction workers or tax collecters enter there, albanians start to riot and pull out their ak-47 they keep since Kosovo War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_insurgency_in_the_Republic_of_Macedonia

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 18.12.2017 at 13:33

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 18.12.2017 at 13:26

Your math is wrong real number of their tribe is 15 %-20% thats not half

Hyperbole, but not far from realism because they statistically have more children than Macedonians so they will reach and surpass the natives in the near future.

Not to mention illegal immigration from Albania to Western Macedonia because Macedonian police and administration have no control of that area. Even you know that when police, teachers, construction workers or tax collecters enter there, albanians start to riot and pull out their ak-47 they keep since Kosovo War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_insurgency_in_the_Republic_of_Macedonia

They lost that war like all wars in their short history (Kosovo is gift from USA )
We won in 2001, We will win again .
For now we have full control of our territory
Bigest problem for my country is EU and USA
They dont allow turkish stream in balkan
They dont like progress of this region
Without cheap russian gas like in Germany
Balkan will stay poor with dirty air in winter.
Balkan is shithole bc USA and Eu


US EMBASSY Macedonia on twitter
#AirPollution in Skopje was so thick today, you could hardly see the embassy! What ideas do you have for cleaner air in #Macedonia?

Russian_Emb_MKD
As our friends from @usembassymkd are searching for ideas for the air pollution in Macedonia we want to help with a solution. #TurkishStream

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 17.12.2017 at 17:22

Don't worry guys when your done fucking up europe again the USA will save you from whatever tyrant your failed policies create, just like always.

That was massively ignorant of you, I hope the as always doesn't refer to WW1 because you guys joined the war in its fucking end lul
And I hope you're not referring to WW2, since you joined the war because a member of the Axis attacked u (Pearl Habor), u declared war, and the rest of the Axis declared back.

Tarafından yazıldı Al Fappino, 19.12.2017 at 13:13

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 17.12.2017 at 17:22

Don't worry guys when your done fucking up europe again the USA will save you from whatever tyrant your failed policies create, just like always.

That was massively ignorant of you, I hope the as always doesn't refer to WW1 because you guys joined the war in its fucking end lul
And I hope you're not referring to WW2, since you joined the war because a member of the Axis attacked u (Pearl Habor), u declared war, and the rest of the Axis declared back.

I wish stupid Japan didn't provoke America, then they wouldn't join the war and France would have to be liberated by the Red Army

But i guess nothing special there, since Paris was already 'liberated' 150 years before that by the Russians during Napoleon Wars.

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 18.12.2017 at 14:06

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 18.12.2017 at 13:33

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 18.12.2017 at 13:26

Your math is wrong real number of their tribe is 15 %-20% thats not half

Hyperbole, but not far from realism because they statistically have more children than Macedonians so they will reach and surpass the natives in the near future.

Not to mention illegal immigration from Albania to Western Macedonia because Macedonian police and administration have no control of that area. Even you know that when police, teachers, construction workers or tax collecters enter there, albanians start to riot and pull out their ak-47 they keep since Kosovo War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_insurgency_in_the_Republic_of_Macedonia

They lost that war like all wars in their short history (Kosovo is gift from USA )
We won in 2001, We will win again .
For now we have full control of our territory
Bigest problem for my country is EU and USA
They dont allow turkish stream in balkan
They dont like progress of this region
Without cheap russian gas like in Germany
Balkan will stay poor with dirty air in winter.
Balkan is shithole bc USA and Eu


US EMBASSY Macedonia on twitter
#AirPollution in Skopje was so thick today, you could hardly see the embassy! What ideas do you have for cleaner air in #Macedonia?

Russian_Emb_MKD
As our friends from @usembassymkd are searching for ideas for the air pollution in Macedonia we want to help with a solution. #TurkishStream

In 2001 u didnt win alone so stepback heroe....west didnt want more tension in the are so they stoped they had other priorites

Tarafından yazıldı JUGERS2, 19.12.2017 at 14:46

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 18.12.2017 at 14:06

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 18.12.2017 at 13:33

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 18.12.2017 at 13:26

Your math is wrong real number of their tribe is 15 %-20% thats not half

Hyperbole, but not far from realism because they statistically have more children than Macedonians so they will reach and surpass the natives in the near future.

Not to mention illegal immigration from Albania to Western Macedonia because Macedonian police and administration have no control of that area. Even you know that when police, teachers, construction workers or tax collecters enter there, albanians start to riot and pull out their ak-47 they keep since Kosovo War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_insurgency_in_the_Republic_of_Macedonia

They lost that war like all wars in their short history (Kosovo is gift from USA )
We won in 2001, We will win again .
For now we have full control of our territory
Bigest problem for my country is EU and USA
They dont allow turkish stream in balkan
They dont like progress of this region
Without cheap russian gas like in Germany
Balkan will stay poor with dirty air in winter.
Balkan is shithole bc USA and Eu


US EMBASSY Macedonia on twitter
#AirPollution in Skopje was so thick today, you could hardly see the embassy! What ideas do you have for cleaner air in #Macedonia?

Russian_Emb_MKD
As our friends from @usembassymkd are searching for ideas for the air pollution in Macedonia we want to help with a solution. #TurkishStream

In 2001 u didnt win alone so stepback heroe....west didnt want more tension in the are so they stoped they had other priorites

War was Kosovars +Americans vs Slavic brothers
and we won

Slavs STRONK!!!
HAIL MOTHER RUSSIA

Syria another good example for slavic power

Tarafından yazıldı Al Fappino, 19.12.2017 at 13:13

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 17.12.2017 at 17:22

Don't worry guys when your done fucking up europe again the USA will save you from whatever tyrant your failed policies create, just like always.

That was massively ignorant of you, I hope the as always doesn't refer to WW1 because you guys joined the war in its fucking end lul
And I hope you're not referring to WW2, since you joined the war because a member of the Axis attacked u (Pearl Habor), u declared war, and the rest of the Axis declared back.

I mean world war 2 where without the United states intervention you would of enjoyed a hundred years of good ol communism.

Ps it was mostly a joke to provoke you euro guys enjoy alah, well wait over here for when your ready to be saved

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 19.12.2017 at 17:42

Tarafından yazıldı JUGERS2, 19.12.2017 at 14:46

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 18.12.2017 at 14:06

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 18.12.2017 at 13:33

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 18.12.2017 at 13:26

Your math is wrong real number of their tribe is 15 %-20% thats not half

Hyperbole, but not far from realism because they statistically have more children than Macedonians so they will reach and surpass the natives in the near future.

Not to mention illegal immigration from Albania to Western Macedonia because Macedonian police and administration have no control of that area. Even you know that when police, teachers, construction workers or tax collecters enter there, albanians start to riot and pull out their ak-47 they keep since Kosovo War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_insurgency_in_the_Republic_of_Macedonia

They lost that war like all wars in their short history (Kosovo is gift from USA )
We won in 2001, We will win again .
For now we have full control of our territory
Bigest problem for my country is EU and USA
They dont allow turkish stream in balkan
They dont like progress of this region
Without cheap russian gas like in Germany
Balkan will stay poor with dirty air in winter.
Balkan is shithole bc USA and Eu


US EMBASSY Macedonia on twitter
#AirPollution in Skopje was so thick today, you could hardly see the embassy! What ideas do you have for cleaner air in #Macedonia?

Russian_Emb_MKD
As our friends from @usembassymkd are searching for ideas for the air pollution in Macedonia we want to help with a solution. #TurkishStream

In 2001 u didnt win alone so stepback heroe....west didnt want more tension in the are so they stoped they had other priorites

War was Kosovars +Americans vs Slavic brothers
and we won

Slavs STRONK!!!
HAIL MOTHER RUSSIA

Syria another good example for slavic power

According to the ceasefire agreement, Macedonian security forces could open fire only when their lives were directly threatened and the return of fire had to be proportionate to any attacks by the NLA.

The agreement also envisioned a 3,000 strong NATO contingent to be deployed in the conflict zone after a political settlement was agreed between the Macedonian and Albanian political leaders. The mandate of the NATO force was to last forty-five days and the task was to disarm the NLA insurgents.



Disarm NLA if they wanted to support us they would do so...they didnt so be thankfull of what you give.Also now you changed your fairy tail about alexander and now u want to be named slavs and no macedonians....nice thing that albanians of "macedoni" want a better country for you slaves of ruskia.Albanians are make your country a europian one.Time has changed even serbs are some what friendly with EU/Albania.

JUGERS2
NLA INSURGENTS LOL
WHOLE WORLD KNOW THEY ARE FUCKING TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
YOUR PEOPLE ARE TERRORIST
There massacres in my country also in Kosovo
And no one from albanians finish in hague
Same shit with americans
They start wars in every corner of world
They done lot of war crimes
Still no one in hague just innocent slavic people
RIP Slobodan Praljak he die slobodan
Fuck eu fuck nato and their double standard
Whole world saw that with Catalonia,kurds
Only Kosovo is legit

NLA INSURGENTS OR TERRORIST ATACK?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smilkovci_lake_killings

EU dont give a fuck if kids are murdered by terrorist in balkan or middle east
But whole world is" je suis Charlie Hebdo"


Anyone know that in nato bombing in serbia
79 innocent children die?
Or they dont give this in western fake news?
Just serbs and russians are bad guys?

LITTLE MILICA WOULD HAVE BEEN 21 YEARS OLD NOW
Milica Rakic, a 3-year-old child who died when a bomb fell into her house and killed her while she was in the bathroom.

Tarafından yazıldı Skanderbeg, 19.12.2017 at 14:37

Tarafından yazıldı Al Fappino, 19.12.2017 at 13:13

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 17.12.2017 at 17:22

Don't worry guys when your done fucking up europe again the USA will save you from whatever tyrant your failed policies create, just like always.

That was massively ignorant of you, I hope the as always doesn't refer to WW1 because you guys joined the war in its fucking end lul
And I hope you're not referring to WW2, since you joined the war because a member of the Axis attacked u (Pearl Habor), u declared war, and the rest of the Axis declared back.

I wish stupid Japan didn't provoke America, then they wouldn't join the war and France would have to be liberated by the Red Army

But i guess nothing special there, since Paris was already 'liberated' 150 years before that by the Russians during Napoleon Wars.

I'd rather have ignorant americans in western europe than eastern rapists and ideological fanatics having swarmed through europe, no offense. Having all of europe commie, a failed ideology that victimized millions in social and political instability and conflicts, even more than Nazism and Fascism? No thanks.

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 20.12.2017 at 07:59

EU dont give a fuck if kids are murdered by terrorist in balkan or middle east
But whole world is" je suis Charlie Hebdo"


Anyone know that in nato bombing in serbia
79 innocent children die?
Or they dont give this in western fake news?
Just serbs and russians are bad guys?

LITTLE MILICA WOULD HAVE BEEN 21 YEARS OLD NOW
Milica Rakic, a 3-year-old child who died when a bomb fell into her house and killed her while she was in the bathroom.

Ik that story, blame Nationalistic Fanaticism that brought that war in the first place, there's a saying that comes from Roman Era (I forgot its exact words) but it says that there's no Law in War time, and it's quite true actually

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.12.2017 at 22:59

Tarafından yazıldı Al Fappino, 19.12.2017 at 13:13

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 17.12.2017 at 17:22

Don't worry guys when your done fucking up europe again the USA will save you from whatever tyrant your failed policies create, just like always.

That was massively ignorant of you, I hope the as always doesn't refer to WW1 because you guys joined the war in its fucking end lul
And I hope you're not referring to WW2, since you joined the war because a member of the Axis attacked u (Pearl Habor), u declared war, and the rest of the Axis declared back.

I mean world war 2 where without the United states intervention you would of enjoyed a hundred years of good ol communism.

Ps it was mostly a joke to provoke you euro guys enjoy alah, well wait over here for when your ready to be saved

The Stereotype of Muslimification of Europe only applies to the UK, France, Germany and maybe Belgium and the Netherlands, Southern and developed countries like Portugal, Spain and Italy don't have and will never have that problem because their culture as of now is of integration and aculturation, so there's no contamination of culture.

Tarafından yazıldı Al Fappino, 20.12.2017 at 14:04

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 19.12.2017 at 22:59

Tarafından yazıldı Al Fappino, 19.12.2017 at 13:13

Tarafından yazıldı Helly, 17.12.2017 at 17:22

Don't worry guys when your done fucking up europe again the USA will save you from whatever tyrant your failed policies create, just like always.

That was massively ignorant of you, I hope the as always doesn't refer to WW1 because you guys joined the war in its fucking end lul
And I hope you're not referring to WW2, since you joined the war because a member of the Axis attacked u (Pearl Habor), u declared war, and the rest of the Axis declared back.

I mean world war 2 where without the United states intervention you would of enjoyed a hundred years of good ol communism.

Ps it was mostly a joke to provoke you euro guys enjoy alah, well wait over here for when your ready to be saved

The Stereotype of Muslimification of Europe only applies to the UK, France, Germany and maybe Belgium and the Netherlands, Southern and developed countries like Portugal, Spain and Italy don't have and will never have that problem because their culture as of now is of integration and aculturation, so there's no contamination of culture.

"Befriend them when you are few, persue them when you are equal, defeat them when you are many." They will come for you, but I do believe out of everyone in europe no one is as good at defeating infidels then you Iberian folk so good luck.

Tarafından yazıldı Al Fappino, 20.12.2017 at 14:00

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 20.12.2017 at 07:59

Ik that story, blame Nationalistic Fanaticism that brought that war in the first place, there's a saying that comes from Roman Era (I forgot its exact words) but it says that there's no Law in War time, and it's quite true actually

Yugoslavia was socialistic country
CIA +west eu created hatred in Yugoslavia
Its funny how they devide all slavs in yu
Croatian serbian and bosnian is not same language?
Its like you say that german in austria ,germany,switzerland is not same language

Devide and rule
USA and EU destroy Yugoslavia
West hate slavs they try to destroy us

But one day
We will MAKE SLAVIA GREAT AGAIN


+300 milion slavs in one country

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 20.12.2017 at 20:52

Tarafından yazıldı Al Fappino, 20.12.2017 at 14:00

Tarafından yazıldı avatar, 20.12.2017 at 07:59

Ik that story, blame Nationalistic Fanaticism that brought that war in the first place, there's a saying that comes from Roman Era (I forgot its exact words) but it says that there's no Law in War time, and it's quite true actually

Yugoslavia was socialistic country
CIA +west eu created hatred in Yugoslavia
Its funny how they devide all slavs in yu
Croatian serbian and bosnian is not same language?
Its like you say that german in austria ,germany,switzerland is not same language

Devide and rule
USA and EU destroy Yugoslavia
West hate slavs they try to destroy us

But one day
We will MAKE SLAVIA GREAT AGAIN


+300 milion slavs in one country

300 million americans. All we have to do is give every man a single bullet and you're all dead.